The MAGA Plan to End Free Weather Reports | Project 2025 would all but dissolve the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Project 2025 would all but dissolve the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
NOAA also collects and analyzes key climate data
It's never clear whether they're more corrupt or more stupid. But they're determined to bury their heads in the sand over the most important issue ever to face humanity, and dismantle the resources the USA has to mitigate the disaster. Corrupt and stupid and delusional.
Fuck climate change, NOAA provides hurricane and heat warnings. They're what most weather providers use as the basis for telling people if you should grab an umbrella on your way out the door
Starting a culture war with the weather is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. What's your end game? Weatherman Alex Jones telling Floridians to go to the beach because the hurricane is just going to glide by safely and bring a nice cool breeze to the shore to keep you comfy?
Rush Limbaugh told his listeners that a hurricane was fake and to stay. Then the day before the hurricane, just before all the airports are shut down, he is off the air because he was "forcibly moved."
I've already seen yapping heads on sticks claiming that extreme heat warnings are fake-- for example, Neil Oliver. But he also says vaccines cause cancer, so he can fuck right off.
And if they ignore hurricane warnings to own the libs, what can you do but shrug your shoulders?
Corrupt and stupid and delusional.
Fossil fascism in action.
They want to privatize everything.
The older I get, the more I buck prior societal trends and lean socialist.
Capitalism is a benefit only to the Parasite Class. It’s an absolute scam for everyone else.
Present!
This is the typical Republican playbook. Privatize, their friends take control, and then they get the government to pay their cronies huge sums of money for the services the government used to provide for itself for a fraction of the cost. It's what they are trying to do with school vouchers too.
don't forget private prisons. after they're done with all that, get ready to pay for your fire and police department subscriptions
Plutarch (Plut. Crass. 2.3-4) states that Marcus Crassus, one of the members of the ‘First Triumvirate’5, owed a good portion of his wealth to “fire and war”. In order to make the most out of the frequent destruction of houses by fire, Crassus bought over five hundred slaves, all of whom were architects and builders. He then proceeded to find homeowners whose houses had burnt down (or, in some cases, were still burning!) and negotiate the purchase of their property, after which he would reconstruct the buildings and sell them on at a price; the very literal sense of a real estate ‘fire sale’!
Except that private weather companies use freely available government data and "enrich" it for the public for a fee.
Which is, imo, even more on brand with Republicans.
It’s thinly veiled stealing your money and putting it into their pocket.
Contracting public services to private companies is a core tenet of neoliberalist economics. Thanks Chicago School. /s
That sounds like something I would put on my plan to undermine and cripple a country if you ask me. Did an enemy of America write Project 2025?
Yes
Нет. This not truth. /j
"Make Tornadoes a Surprise Again!"
Don't worry, they're also doing that by taking down storm sirens and replacing them with mobile alerts because basic maintenance is too much to ask. They just assume everyone has access to a phone at all times and that said phone is charged and capable of receiving the alert. Y'know, because the young and elderly don't deserve to be warned of an incoming tornado!
Hold on. Let me tell you. Sirens in Tennessee are the most bass ackward thing already.
Instead of having a siren sound going off while there is danger in the area... the siren going off is just the NOAA voice reading the alert like you hear on the radio! Big ass "siren" goes, "The National Weather Service has issued a tornado warning for (list of counties). At 7:55PM, Central Daylight Time, a storm capable of producing a tornado was located-"
After it reads off this useless info, what does it do? It shuts off. It stops making noise.
How are you supposed to hear it over the rain and thunder? How are you supposed to know when the danger is passed?
If it worked like it does in Oklahoma I would defend it but this is a travesty.
I'm just going to call my friends who live to the west every 10 minutes and ask if there's a tornado there. If they don't answer I'll just assume there is one and go hide. Problem solved.
Because they allowed him to embarrass himself with the hurricane sharpie situation.
I wouldn't mind betting there's an element of truth there. The orange man child would do it out of spite.
Precisely. The god dictator will have them all executed in time.
These jerks are doing it because they don't want to hear bad climate news. Fucking brilliant.
Oh no that's how they're getting it done. They want to do it because they want to make even more money off of weather apps.
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They still mad that they didn't change their hurricane report when Trump redrew it with a Sharpie.
Basically do what you did to healthcare to the entire country
The US will next year be a third world banana Republic dictatorship
Oh no, worse than that, at least banana republics actually have useful exports.
No, exactly like that. The US has lots of useful exports, and as with banana Republics, almost all the money goes to a very limited set of rich and powerful
Actually it's just because there's rich people who are profiting off of weather reporting apps. NOAA is actually banned from advertising their reports. And they still have a sizeable portion of the market because it's just straight up a better service. So the next big windfall is to kill the government's public reports altogether and make the private apps the only place you can find them.
Uhh wtf? I use NOAA to get my weather, no ads, no bs.
We alllll use NOAA to get our weather. That's what every weather forcaster uses. Even in Canada a lot of our data is from NOAA. Environment Canada has their own data but it's pretty shit in comparison.
Dude, there is a regularly updated gif of recent radar activity specific to your area. You can just bookmark the gif.
https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/standard/KDIX_loop.gif
Fuck dredging through whatever ad filled apps or websites..
I bookmark forecast.weather.gov with my location, which has that gif and other figures available on the page.
Radar.weather.gov is so based
A lot of the "private sector" weather services just scrape NOAA or other public-sector data and apply some branding to it.
Sweet fucking christ, what the fuck is wrong with these cunts?! Fucking why?!?!?
Because Barry Myers is CEO of AccuWeather, and he paid good money to be Director of NOAA for 4 years
It further notes that scientific agencies such as NOAA are “vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims,” so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.
do we want flood-risk predictions sponsored by a flood-insurance company, or heat advisories from an air-conditioning conglomerate?
The agency is home to one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, which includes information on shifting atmospheric conditions and the health of coastal fisheries, plus hundreds of thousands of years’ worth of ice-core and tree-ring data.
Eliminating or privatizing climate information won’t eliminate the effects of climate change. It will only make them more deadly.
It sounds like the counter to this is to point out to voters that they don't really want to pay more for fish because fishermen can't get data, and we don't want planes to be even less reliable AND cost more because the government stops tracking upper level wind speeds, and that, generally, we want people who get a salary for doing accurate work rather than people who get paid to say whatever the bossman want to hear. Ask them to imagine how it would work if Google, NBC, Amazon, and Fox each sunk the money for trying to replicate the existing infrastructure and then sold pieces of it to paying customers -- such as Allstate, CBS, and Delta Airlines. Everyone else would have to HOPE they were getting complete data and have to wonder what was missing. Noticing record highs and lows would become proprietary and forbidden from broadcast in a way akin to being disallowed from referencing "The Superbowl" unless you pay for a license. How's any of that going to work?
they want to do to themselves what they have been doing to the third world
That's how we solve the homeless crisis and the unemployment?....
So are there any hurricanes coming this month? Dunno. Oh well!
Hurricane comes and erases let's say 10% of Texas and Florida. Then we just ship the homeless there to rebuild, and live permanently until another hurricane 🌀.
Yeah great idea! And imagine the economical impact if everyone was employed!
I just got a weather alert for severe storms. If they get rid of NOAA does that mean that I've just got to hope for the best at all times?
Mostly
Will we have to pay extra for the Sharpies, too?
Taxpayer funded isn’t “free”. We paid for it already.
Cool, so, whose pockets are those taxes dollars going back into? I'm sure it ain't going to be ours.
I don’t know, but they don’t talk about social security like it’s ‘free money for seniors’, they paid into it. We pay taxes for these services, they shouldn’t be framed as free, like we’re freeloaders and should be thankful we had it so long (that’s the trumpist framing).
Yall realise project 2025 isn't even going to be implemented right? Its some plan cooked up by a think tank and isn't endorsed by Trump.
31 of the 38 people who helped write or edit the project served in some manner in Trump’s administration or transition
Project 2025: inside Trump’s ties to the rightwing policy playbook
Some more extracts:
Roberts, the Heritage leader, has said he met with Trump several times and they were friendly. Trump gave the signature speech at a Heritage conference after Roberts took over the foundation. When Roberts was tapped for the role, Trump said he would be “so incredible” and “outstanding”.
Paul Dans and Steven Groves co-edited the project, which includes chapters on federal agencies written by former Trump officials, allies or other conservative experts. Both Dans and Groves served in multiple roles in the Trump administration. Another big contributor to the project is Russ Vought, who Trump appointed as director of the Office of Management and Budget.
