Okay, which one of you wrote this? Lmao
Okay, which one of you wrote this? Lmao
Okay, which one of you wrote this? Lmao
Wasted food drives me nuts
Vegan food can taste really good. I don't fucking care if its vegan. I eat stuff because it tastes good.
"deliciousvore"
Fun fact: Since 1973 it has been legally required to serve free lunch at elementary schools every single school day, no exceptions. Since 2011 the food also has to be nutritious.
If you want to convince people to become vegan,--or even vegetarian--you need to be inviting to them. The same goes for any political or religious movement; if you actively alienate people and tell them that they aren't welcome before they can even try to join, then they likely never will.
I was a Mormon missionary. Yeah, it's a cult. And you know how they recruited new cult members? By being extra loving and kind to people that were considering joining (and also hiding the really weird shit, like how they believe they eventually become gods themselves). It's called "love bombing". Mormons are absolutely, 100% convinced that they have the only correct religion, and that all other religions are false. But they will be your best friend ever while they're trying to lure you in.
Vegans could learn from this.
Mormons are absolutely, 100% convinced that they have the only correct religion, and that all other religions are false.
Do me a favour: Construct a form of activism so good it turns you vegan, then tell us about it.
Otherwise whatever ideas you have don't seem to actually work on you either huh?
Start by not making it appear to be activism.
Start by presenting options that are as appealing as options that have animal products and cost less than animal products. Make equivalents that have similar flavors and textures so that people aren't experiencing a significant shift when they're eating, because food is often very emotional for people. (...Which you demonstrate so aptly in your activism against animals as food; it's an emotional issue for you, even if it has intellectual aspects.) You need to create conditions such that people can eat less meat, and titer down their consumption, without attempting to shame them while they reduce their consumption.
There's a restaurant in Atlanta that I highly recommend called La Semilla; they do Cuban food, and the entire restaurant is vegan. They understand that if you want most people to even consider being vegan, they have to be presented with food that looks, smells, and tastes appealing, and it must be presented in a welcoming atmosphere. They aren't loud or angry in their message; they're doing good food and being a good example. Every meal that a non-vegan eats there is one less meal made with animal products, and that, sir, is progress. And it's more progress than they'd see if they told everyone that wasn't already a vegan to fuck off and get the fuck out of their restaurant.
A discord server Im in is mostly vegan, exactly the same response. They genuinely believe being militant and alienating will actually work in the long run. Cant fix stupid
I doubt it's a genuine belief that it will work, to be honest. People just love to feel superior. I'm convinced the hostile vegans have joined the cause simply because they found a club to make them feel superior over others in much the same way radically religious types use that cause to do the same. They believe with such vigor because they need to for their own sense of self-worth rather than because they actually believe in the cause. If they really believed in the cause then they'd be welcoming of new members. They're not welcoming and downright hostile to new members because that would expand the in-group and shrink the out-group they get to feel superior over.
I get it, I mean that approach has worked for online leftists . . . oh wait
Did it more ham than good though?
I assume they mean harm as in reinforcing the "snobbish" stereotype that vegans are known for, and OP's screenshot demonstrates the same thing- potentially turning people away from considering the diet themselves.
You're helping the planet and animals by not eating them, but if your snobbery turns 10 people off from adopting that diet, then I'd say you've hypothetically done more harm than good too lol
We have a Veganism is militant and a Veganism must be nice here.
"They accidentally used regular milk in my latte instead of oat milk, and I didn't want to waste it and force them remake it."
Online vegans: #ABUSER ANIMAL-RAPIST!!!
This would sure bother them if they could read!
Wow a omnivore who can't form a sentence without mentioning bacon, haven't seen one of those before.
Literally Hitler
Never heard the term before, thanks for the user name inspiration; this shit is metal!
That was my thought, lol.
Finding this place on all is the best that has ever happened to me.
Wouldn't say it is making me vegan, but who knows. Maybe one day you guys might be the ones to convince me
Jim is literally hitler.
I wish I could claim to be that based
Vegan is more than a diet so I get their shitting response. A good reason I always used plant-based and just advocated for people to eat more veg and less meat/dairy.
Whoever they are, they're my hero ๐คฉ
For turning more people away from the idea of being a vegan? Me too! Less elitist jerks to deal with, yay!
Anyone who pays for animals to be killed for their pleasure is an animal abuser and a piece of shit.
Im plenty critical of militant vegans, but thats a bit unfair. Industrial ranching is a big contributor to climate change, theres a well-reasoned argument I see alot
Humans need their factory meat. Even back in the stone ages
I agree. The sooner we switch to a partial cannibalistic diet the sooner we can settle this. There, I've confused everyone.
How's your restaurant these days? Lol
Put hands on me and see how my animal reacts!
Yeah I often don't pay. I slit animal's throats and butcher them myself if sausage/ground meat is the intent. Real butcher i pay if I want nicely cut steaks.
so... the majority of people? or specifically people in meat processing?
No way this guy is not a shill from big meat