Biden tells Hill Democrats he ‘declines’ to step aside and says it’s time for party drama ‘to end’
Biden tells Hill Democrats he ‘declines’ to step aside and says it’s time for party drama ‘to end’
President Joe Biden in a letter to congressional Democrats is standing firm against calls for him to drop his candidacy after his dismal debate performance.
Here's the part I like: Biden said "if they’re serious they ought to 'announce for president, challenge me at the convention' or rally behind him against Trump".
He's got a point. I thought the debate was a massive fuck-up, but deciding who to replace him with and then mounting a viable attempt at the replacement with that person makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than just leaning into GOP talking points about how Biden's fuckups, however bad, are definitely worse than Trump's objectively much worse fuckups.
Replace Biden? Sure, let's get fuckin busy, find a good replacement, and if doesn't work, get behind Biden or whoever the nominee is. I still think Jon Stewart is the way to do it, but that is probably a non starter of an idea. Kamala Harris is the highest polling option and realistic. Be aware that everyone who was super panicked about Biden's unsuitability will instantly pivot to panicking with concern-trolling about Kamala's unsuitability, and if you fall for it right away again and start trying to replace her, I will not have a lot of respect for you or your intelligence or pattern recognition abilities.
Keep Biden? Sure, that sounds good too. Let's get fuckin busy, and start rallying people to help him beat the end of the world in November.
Keep running in circles flapping our hands in the air about how something must be done because we're definitely going to lose in November, without offering any good alternate strategy or way to get it done? That is the option that seems unlikely to cause anything good to happen. It is, however, what a lot of the Republican aligned media seems very very committed to encouraging the Democrats to do, and for some mentally challenged reason it seems like it's winning over quite a lot of them.
Don’t talk too loudly about Democrats increasing funding for cops, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about Biden bankrolling a genocide, it helps Trump!
Don’t talk too loudly about the man y’all say will protect us from Trump being too incapacitated to protect us from Trump, it helps Trump!
It is crazy to try to paint this as drama when you bring up any issues before things get bad, folks will just shout you down anyway. I've seen many liberals say they would vote for Biden's corpse, so what difference does it make if it is someone else with (D) next to their name? You might as well go down swinging than on your knees.
I'll still be voting for Biden even if he's preserved as a head in a jar this fall. However, I wish it were not so, and I think far too many normies and the generally clueless (and pouty purity pony lefty dumbasses) are going to stay home, lodge a stupid "protest vote", or vote outright for donnie if it's Biden as the Democratic option.
Bleh.
All I've seen is people telling him to step down. I haven't seen a concrete solution for what happens if he does. That's why all of this dick waving is doing nothing but hurting his chances. All you "Dems" are just regurgitating conservative talking points and doing their propaganda for them. Instead of talking about how he stumbled, talk about how Trump did nothing but lie, rape, and is a convicted felon. His showing was far worse than Biden, yet here his side is attacking him and ignoring Trump. The option to switch candidates is long gone. It's fine to be critical of Biden, but if all you are is critical, then you are actively hurting his chances of reelection.
It's mind numbing how many of you are just out there actively attacking the guy that will be the candidate in November, whether you like it or not. Reality sucks sometimes, and you get stuck with a giant douche and a turd sandwich, but that's just how it is. An awful lot of faces for leopards out there.
I think I've finally figured out the Democratic Party's strategy here. The Dems have never held the presidency through two consecutive candidates, save for the VP taking over after the president's death. They're pushing Biden so hard knowing he'll die shortly into his second term, then they'll have Harris for at least one term, giving them a slight advantage in 2028. And if they can secure a second term for Harris, that gives them eight years to mildly delay fascism, and by that point the earth will be on fire too much for any government system to matter.
Can't wait for a repeat of 2016. Thanks Biden.
There's a better way to end the drama: campaign like democracy is at stake. Go on a campaign tour and turn those numbers around. Oh well ...
“We have 42 days to the Democratic Convention and 119 days to the general election,” Biden said in the letter
Sounds like we got 42 more days to name a candidate...
Why the fuck are we pretending this is only Biden's decision though?
The DNC can nominate anyone they want, and Biden already said he doesn't care if trump wins.
So why does Biden get to insist he's the candidate? Especially when every metric and data point we have, shows Biden won't be able to pull it off?
This election is more important than an 81 year olds personal beliefs and if "Lord God" has told him to drop out or not
Pushing forward with Joe is damn near suicidal at this point.
How about you first of all pull your head out of your ass and understand the existential nature of the situation, Biden? It’s starting to look like you’re one of the last people in the party that just doesn’t fucking get it. We’re probably not going to have real elections anymore if you lose to Trump, and you don’t seem to be taking that seriously. You’ve done fuck-all over your term to actually combat the rising fascism in this country, and we’re in this situation in large part because of that. Get out of the fucking way and let someone who will actually treat the situation with the seriousness it deserves have the ticket.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
He followed up the letter with a phone interview with MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” show, on which he insisted that “average Democrats” want him to stay in the race and said he was “frustrated” by the calls from party officials for him to step aside.
Many Democrats are arguing the attention needs to be focused instead on the former president’s felony conviction in the hush money case and pending federal charges in his effort to overturn the 2020 election.
In an effort to “get on the same page,” House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries is convening lawmakers for private meetings before he shows his own preference, according to a person familiar with the situation and granted anonymity to discuss it.
Still other members, including Rep. Maxine Waters of California and Rep. Bobby Scott of Virginia, both leaders in the Congressional Black Caucus, spoke forcefully in support of Biden, as did Rep. Richard Neal of Massachusetts, the top Democrat on the powerful Ways and Means Committee.
Behind the scenes is Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, who continues to field calls from lawmakers seeking advice about the situation, and is widely viewed as the one to watch for any ultimate decision on Biden’s future because of her proximity to the president and vote-counting skills in party politics.
House Democrats have had some of their better fundraising days yet, including a $3 million haul last Friday night after the debate at an event with former President Barack Obama and Jeffries in New York City.
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This is the kind of leadership he needs to show to convince everyone he's still viable, but a letter on it's own is not going to cut it.
I hear he called in on Morning Joe as well, I need to run that down.
Edit Found the clip: