They lied, browbeat, deflected, slandered, gaslit, and treated with the most sickening condescension everyone who warned them over and over that this would happen. If it weren't for the genocide, this would the purest and most concentrated schadenfreude I've ever felt, cocaine-like in it's tangibility. Now begins I Fucking Told You So Season.
Fuck liberals, they tried to get us to "tactically" support ethnic cleansing to win a fucking election, and they're gonna lose that too! Good going you bloodless sensless freaks, you put on the armband and seig heil'd in front of the whole world for nothing!
I'm watching A(ustralian)BC coverage of it and there's a vibe of "he's actually going to lose to Trump." He's failed to pass the bar of "looking functional" and has actually managed to look bad vs a guy who literally just made shit up and started rambling about golf.
Yeah I genuinely think it is Joever for him after tonight, I've never watched a debate where all the immediate post-debate coverage chyrons are like "Should Incumbent drop out??" LMAO
me putting on the conspiracy theory hat and wildly gesturing like a crank
What if the DNC purposely never wanted Biden but waited until after it was too late for primaries so they can handpick the actual candidate they want at the DNC convention and purposely pushed him to have a debate with Trump knowing that Biden would eat shit?
I’m honestly shocked they’re admitting how bad he was, I was expecting them to do some shit like say that he’s normally cognizant and just forgot to have a balanced breakfast this morning
The political history nerd in me is honestly finding this really fascinating to be witnessing right now. Seeing liberal pundits saying that Biden needs to step down before the convention, reading all of the articles about it, etc. This might be one of those things that gets talked about in Presidential history 50 years from now, how abysmal Joe Biden was as a president and how his own party could no longer deny how unfit he was to remain as president (4 months before the election lmao).
Kamala was live on CNN about 30 minutes ago with Anderson Cooper. She was trying to save face and Anderson Cooper interrupted her. Anderson told Kamala that Biden's performance at the debate was a disaster and a train wreck.
I'm honestly surprised to see that CNN is negatively covering Biden.
Watching some people I know have live meltdowns as they were confronted with the reality of this living corpse as their nominee has been fucking hilarious
Watching them consider if RFK should take over was even funnier
They were never planning on running Biden in November. If they did joebiden.com would have said what his platform is, and it does not, even now. Gavin Newsom's nomination is imminent, right?
Edit: They actually added the Issues tab today, there is an archive of the site from today without it. Maybe they can reuse it
It’s amazing to me that democrats can watch a genocide for nine months, and do nothing but make excuses, but one debate with grandpa has them freaking out. I didn’t even watch the debate. Anyone invested in that guy before the debate was just as cooked as he is. I just caught a few clips and spent a few minutes laughing through hexbear’s reactions, as is proper.
It’s so weird how literally nothing changed we learned nothing new but tons of libs coming out of the woodwork for no Biden now. Winds of change are here but obviously nothing good will happen
Now I subjected myself to some reaction from "professional" analyst, I kinda think that this was a hitjob and a coup.
Usually, the first "hot" take by analyst on the network hosting the debate is the most important. John King of CNN, right after the debate ends immediately goes on "panic among Democratic party." Then everyone on the panel, Van Jones, David Axelrod, Alyssa Griffin, all took turn burying the shiv, with nothing positive to say. These people are not that brave, and they have been gaslighting people for 6 years (ever since Biden started running in '18 he's been mentally compromised). Same with MSNBC, Rachel Maddow asked Alex Wagner and she immediately also said that the reaction was negative. Joy Ann Reid piled on and said Joe Biden don't have the stamina. The replacement headline then immediately made it to NYT front page, opinion piece, and now repeated by all major outlets. These people didn't went through the denial, anger, bargaining stage, they all within 1 1/2 hr debate go to acceptance in unison.
I wonder how the Europeans are doing? They sacrificed their economy for this guy and the other guy was talking about dismantling NATO during his presidency. I'm sure they're all feeling wonderful in their decisions.
Democrats in charge don't want to win, they're not replacing him. They don't want to give concessions to anyone, best way to avoid accountability is to lose
Well, this is hilarious. Neo-liberal propagandists and paid shills all over the Internet are literally panicking right now. And, yeah, the ultra-corrupt "Democratic" Party political machine trying to force us all to vote for a clearly senile old war criminal was obviously a lousy idea on their part.
Jill Stein and Cornel West need to ramp up their presidential campaigns. This year should be great for left-wing opposition candidates! :-)
BetOnline is currently showing Biden at +300 to win, and Newsom at +700. That seems like an awfully small spread when one person is the presumptive democratic nominee and the other is not
This late game swapping horses will also add legitimacy to trump’s argument to delegitimize the election should he lose in November so it’s fucking win win for him. fucking liberals fumbling the bag as usual. This feels like October 2020 when the emails came up again but it’s fucking July! Glad liberals are malding RN free Palestine
Perusing through r/politics on ... Can't see the comments on all the articles about replacing him. But the mega thread comments are pure, uncut copium; libs are going to OD on this shit lmao!!!
President Biden is a good man who capped a long career in public service with a successful presidential term. But I hope he reviews his debate performance Thursday evening and withdraws from the race, throwing the choice of a Democratic nominee to the convention in August.
One of the perils facing this country, I believe and Biden believes, is the risk of a victory by Donald Trump. And after the debate, it’s hard to avoid the feeling that Biden remaining in the race increases the likelihood that Trump will move into the White House in January.
Biden has never been a great debater, but his voice and manner didn’t put to rest the doubts about his age and effectiveness. Rather, he amplified them. I happened to chat today with a woman who is undecided about whom to vote for — she says she distrusts both Trump and Biden but will choose based on who will do better for the economy — and I bet that now she will be supporting Trump.
In some sense, this may be unfair. This was one debate. A candidate’s physical frailty, hoarse voice and rambling responses may not be good predictors of how that person will govern. But in this election, they probably are good predictors that the candidate will lose in November and not have a chance to govern again.
We see the world through narratives, and one of the narratives about Biden is that he is too old. His performance reinforced that narrative when he needed to shatter it. Biden, unable to puncture Trump’s repeated falsehoods, allowed a convicted felon to win the debate.
Biden can resolve this by withdrawing from the race. There isn’t time to hold new primaries, but he could throw the choice of a successor to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. The Democratic Party has some prominent figures who I think would be in a good position to defeat Trump in November, among them Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Gina Raimondo, the secretary of commerce. And there are many others.
My phone has been blowing up with texts from people saying, as one put it: “Dear God. What are we going to do?” Another, also a fan of Biden, texted: “It’s imperative we change horses.” But Democrats have been reluctant to say this out loud and undermine Biden. So it will be up to Joe and Jill Biden to make this choice themselves.
This will be a wrenching choice. But, Mr. President, one way you can serve your country in 2024 is by announcing your retirement and calling on delegates to replace you, for that is the safest course for our nation.
Can anyone find the clip where Biden is incoherently rambling, stumbling over his words, forgets what he's saying, and after the moderator cuts him off with, "Thank you President Biden," he goes, "And by the way!......" and just stares into space for several seconds? That was one of the funniest (and saddest) things I've ever seen during a debate.
And always rememeber to - bzzrrt -If Trump is such an existential threat to democracy then why are they running an 80 year old man? - bzzrrt - no matter who.
Please no, they hitched themselves to him and supported genocide to boost his ratings, they can't just jettison him now that they've finally realized he's ballast. They have to go down with him.
Biden's performance was so khallas that I actually got cold feet and consider the possibility of actually voting for him (I live in a blue state where my vote doesn't matter anyway). Things are so dire, and dumbass dem libs caused this mess.
Newsom promised he wouldn't run against Biden, but never said anything about replacing him if he is forced to withdraw and/or removed from office by the 25th amendment.
Listening to a bit of media today it sounds like he is now the leading choice among the talkinghead set.
I wonder what it cost in dollars (not to mention human-hours) to run that likely-about-to-be-ignored primary pretend election 👀