When a liberal says something about "surviving the next 4 years" ask them "what precisely do you think happens in 4 years?"
They need to start being honest with themselves that there is a reality where the Democrats never win another US election.
Are you really just going to "wait it out" and watch Trump Jr. or Meatball Ron takes over in '28? Then what?
No, they expect the DNC to pull out a new corpse that will maintain all of trumps policies and speed up deportations further but at least the ICE headquarters will have nice feel good words painted on the wall.
Still not gonna happen. I don't know why anyone is pretending we can have a fair election at this point
I'm talking about misguided "progressives" not a through and through establishment twitter ghoul.
Many of them are on the brink but they need to be given license to reject the institutions.
Basically.
The one good thing about a Trump presidency is that it’s radicalization season. We got Peter Daou last time and for many well-meaning liberals, it’s more or less giving them permission to crash out. What are they going to do? Call you a tumblr SJW? They’re calling you that already!
there is a reality where the Democrats never win another US election.
Unless Trump becomes dictator for life, we're gonna get a democrat after Trump. American independents vote on economic vibes and the vibes will only get worse. That means every four years, the two parties will swap presidents and conditions will continue to get worse.
I would not count out Trump being dictator for life, or failing that, for the voting process to become so ratfucked that dems cannot win.
It's perfectly possible the Republicans just rig the vote considering the whole "blatant disregard for the law" thing going on right now.
Why would that? It really isn't that important and the democrats are happy to throw elections.
Weird thing to depend on in the fascist US. Your average progressive liberal didn't even like Biden (if they did genuinely like him, that person is not the subject of this post). They are getting the message, but repeating liberal tropes and now is the time to interrupt that cycle of waiting to take leadership from the Democrats that will never arrive.
I'm not discounting a Trump dictatorship entirely, I'm saying that the average voter has the memory of a gold fish. The era of two-term consecutive presidents died with Obama. From now on "independents" who decide the election will say "hmmm gas got higher under X. Time to vote Y."
I don't know what you people are complaining about; my investments look great from all the way over here, working overseas.
Unless Trump becomes dictator for life, we're gonna get a democrat after Trump.
Not so sure about that. Almost 5 million votes were thrown out in the 2024-election. Why wouldn't the republicans keep doing that?
Looking into this...
there's something about this attitude that dovetails really well with the lasting inertia of amerikkkan christianity. the liberal simply plans to indeed wait it out until either they die or they're killed or they're killed through social murder. because doing things is for bad, other people and the holy must simply take it.
I know I browbeat this whole site over media comparisons (because I’m a gramsci enjoyer partially) but this leftypol post is still relevant almost a decade later.
The virgin Potter vs the CHAD Goku
Damn, that's so accurate. Harry potter is literally just a manifestation of liberalism. It's why I guess it's so easy for liberals to apply it to reality, even though material reality doesn't match it.
Pretty funny that it gets selected over Star wars, hunger games etc. which have a bit more materialism in their stories. But I think it's because that would actually require them to do something that is not conforming to their ideology.
Even going further with this analogy: when Voldemort takes over the government and schools, what do the "good guys" of those institutions do? Basically nothing. Everything relies on the individual, Harry, coming to their rescue.
YES
Hell yeah, also Digimon Adventure, the Chad Digidestined
If dems get back in what happens? Hoist an lgbt flag and call it a day?
They'll do as much as they did at the end of Trump's last term, which was precisely fuck all.
They'll probably publicly undo all the anti-woke anti-DEI stuff while continuing all his other policies.
The culture wars sure are a handy excuse for 'progressives' to not materially help anyone
Why, the most important election of our lifetimes of course.
Between two neoliberals who openly say they would never support universal Healthcare and we need to work with the Republicans and no were not closing any of the camps.
No more barely surviving. It's time to start fighting for the right to thrive.
I think what I'm learning talking to people is that when they are feeling vulnerable, that's when they are most open to solutions I present. I think we need to push on these vulnerabilities because in a way they are the contradictions of capitalism playing out in their consciousness. And as we know, contradiction is how things change.
Unfortunately vulnerability only comes when they are personally affected, which happens to everyone differently.
Democrats are an empty vessel for whatever will win when republicans make enough people mad. That is survival in this system. Unfortunately it does nothing for people. This is about where we have been for decades. Democrats will win again.
Exactly, it's already a one-party fascist dictatorship. Why take off the mask?
Surviving to the next brunch they mean. They assume that the system works and that dems return to power because that's how the world works. I do not think they certainly believe that trump will stop elections.
I don't see how there will be a Democrat winning, but there definitely won't be a peaceful transfer of power. J6 2029 will be successful, and I think the libs might just short circuit and die when voting is finally dead
Nah they will be the ones giving thunderous applause and singing god save america.
To be fair, if the Republicans manage to make third terms a thing, they'll get to have Obama in 2032 (now you might be tempted to think they'll rush out in droves if Obama runs in 28, but remember, so will Republicans to stop America from having a black person run America again)
If they're going to talk like it, they need to act like it.
Idk, but It’s gotten to a point where I judge people who vote
If the Liberal Democrat’s take over I might jumping for joy…but I probably won’t.