How native Hawaiians feel about the occupation regime

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Hawaii is a victim of colonialism to this day. The sovereignty of hawaii was illegally stolen. Every day natives of hawaii are priced out of their own homes by their alleged fellow citizens. A genocide beneath the very fingers that so like to point towards other nations.
- The US is still bitter that Hawaii was more advanced than the United States of Backwards way back when.

Would Hawaii live in peace and prosperity if it were suddenly its own independent state?
- It would be up to the people who live there to figure out how to run things. This is certainly not an argument for US to continue occupying them.
  
  how is it an “occupation” when Hawaiians themselves voted to become a state by a 94+% majority?
  On June 27, 1959, a referendum asked residents of Hawaiʻi to vote on the statehood bill; 94.3% voted in favor of statehood and 5.7% opposed it. (source)
  
  True, just clarifying the best case scenario. Did the Hawaiian people recently vote to leave the union that I am unaware of?
- Can I ask you something? And this is me being genuine here, because I'm clearly out of the loop, but what is it about communism that you think is really great? Just forget about the capitalist propaganda comments, I want your genuine opinion, why is it great and what drew you to it?
- Probably not with the US around. It's never let any other country live in quiet peace and prosperity. It's always worth being optimistic, though.
- They did before they were conquered. Why is that so hard to imagine now?
  
  Hawaii was annexed in 1898. So, why dredge up anger at the conquest over 100 years later?
- lol, no, this is not actually the land of endless aloha even among the natives
- Judging by their history, probably not. Just like people's everywhere, Hawaiians have a very violent history full of warfare!
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nu%CA%BBuanu
  "Caught between the Hawaiian Army and a 1000-foot drop, over 700 Oʻahu warriors either jumped or were pushed over the edge of the Pali (cliff). In 1898 construction workers working on the Pali road discovered 800 skulls which were believed to be the remains of the warriors that fell to their deaths from the cliff above."

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