New Grad with some experience needing some advice
New Grad with some experience needing some advice
The reddit cscareerquestions is all doom and gloom 100% of the time so I don't think I'd get a real answer there so I came here.
I am feeling pretty lost right now. I started at a local company in 2017 initially just as a shipper. They were like 5 dudes in the middle of nowhere running an online retail store and so after shipping was done I had a lot of downtime. They were doing a lot of stuff really inefficiently because of some tech debt they had accumulated, and a lot of that work was getting pawned off on me because I was the new guy. Well, I didn't wanna do that so I started learning programming, specifically Python, and made a bunch of applications over a few years that automated/worked around/replaced that old broken stuff. This ended up becoming a really important part of everyone's work day and my software has saved them 1000s of man-hours annually and honestly I think that is a conservative estimate. My work in part helped them grow their product offerings significantly because they weren't having to do a bunch of stuff manually anymore. (Inventory updates, Customer order and tracking updates, Updating/pulling stuff from databases, eventually integrated my stuff with some vendor APIs who offered them, web scraping to get info on hundreds of thousands of products and more!)
In 2019 I decided I really enjoyed doing this and wanted to get paid to do it for real, so I went back to school for computer science. December 2023 I graduated with a 3.42 GPA. And I've had almost no interviews. I was really close to landing one position through a hiring manager I knew personally working with .NET, but right before I was hired the CEO closed the team and shifted priorities. Since then, I've had absolutely nothing and I've exhausted all my other connections in the industry with similar results.
I've been applying constantly. I know the market is in a bad spot right now for juniors and entry-level people, but I can't even get anyone to respond to my applications and I'm feeling pretty down about it. I feel like I could make an impression if I got into a room with somebody and could talk about my previous job, but I'm just not getting to that point.
I think I really fucked up prioritizing working at said company making software instead of internships and now I'm feeling screwed. Am I screwed? Am I overreacting? Do I just need to keep at it or do I need to go back for my master's? I really don't want to do that... I'm not sure I can financially do that. I dunno. Give me advice?
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I never did any internships or even went to school for CS (which I've variously felt was either holding me back or was completely irrelevant). If you're looking to network, look for local user groups and business group meetups. These groups are normally held together by consultants and other various marketing interests so you will likely not get hired from this but you can get to know people and maybe even have an opportunity to present. This could lead to getting a heads up on upcoming positions and perhaps even good word of mouth.
Unfortunately this just is a bad time to be looking for work due to industry layoffs. It's impacting me as well and I have 25 years of experience, but I'm stuck in a job that is good but contracted through a garbage company. But it's remote and not going anywhere so I can weather the downturn and wait until the market improves.
Oh and in my observation, a Masters degree isn't helpful unless you branch into business or something, but that's not a technical career track, but management.
Thanks for the advice. I should have mentioned this, but unfortunately I live in an area that is very much the middle of nowhere and not at all a tech hub. I feel this is holding me back as well, since I can only apply for jobs where I'm remote or can relocate, and I'm sure companies would rather hire a local. There's maybe... two? Software dev companies in my immediate area. (I've already applied, haven't heard back.) I could probably find a group for tractor enthusiasts.
The closest thing I have to anything like that that I know of is the upcoming career fair at my university, which is open to alumni as well, but that's not for a while yet.
That's okay. Me too. Rust belt almost my entire career. There are still user groups and chamber of commerce functions everywhere. I worked for a steel company for two years. Great job actually. You aren't limited to software companies but you'll probably get the best mentoring and experience in that industry. But any development job gets you started and builds your resume.
I am not a hiring manager (or, more likely a recruiter/HR), so I cannot speak about the value of having a MS listed on one's resume.
I am a senior developer with a masters degree and I am very grateful for the knowledge I got from that degree. Since I graduated, I have never needed to write a compiler, but i know how to implement a bunch of language features and it makes new languages easier to learn.
Could I have learned all of that without going to school? Definitely. It is all in white papers, software documentation, and textbooks, but for me, that is not the best way to learn. From what I have been able to find, even the most advanced MOOCs are only at advanced undergraduate level but don't cover grad school level concepts.