Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse?
Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse?
I'm a conservative. I don't mind the liberal stuff here. It's good to learn the other side, but I don't want a liberal echo chamber. I'd like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?
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Not likely that there will be a conservative instance. Lemmys core principles are "left leaning" so that already lowers tolerance for the audience "the right" attracts. Every conservative instance eventually gets deleted and defederated because toxicity is baked into the idea. America's "left" is already right wing to the rest of the modern world, so going further than that is just... not great. You can hope for the "ENLIGHTENED_CENTRISTS" to try to keep a somewhat moderated instance but I wouldn't hold my breath.
I don't think that lemmy's principles are left leaning at all... Sure they're anti-authoritarian but being anti-authoritarian doesn't mean you're a leftist -
George Orwell characterises this really well(mb)But George Orwell was a leftist.
Oh damn I misremembered, my bad
Somehow I got mixed up by the fact that animal farm was anti-authoritarian, not anti-left
Orwell criticized leftists as well. 1984 was a critic of Stalinism.
Check the "All" page on the big Lemmy instances, it's undoubtedly very left-leaning. This whole thread is a testament to that.
Right wingers are inherently authoritarian. Their ideology rests upon the belief that some people are just naturally better, and more suited to lead. Leftists have the capability for authoritarianism of course, but you're not gonna find a single view that coherently critiques power while also having hierarchy.
Society is inherently authoritarian leaning. If you put people in an environment where they aren't on first name terms with everyone they interact with you're going to end up with an authority not caring about people they don't know personally. If you wanna go back to living in a single village with minimal outside contact except with traders you are familiar with anyway then go for it, but I can't see many people actually wanting that. To find the minimal levels of authoritarianism that work with a society where there is a centralised power you'd probably have to look at the centre-left, with it getting more authoritarian the more right or left you go from there
Or you could just not have any people in power. Y'know, like the far left, anarchism and communism, which you claim are authoritarian.
I don't claim that anarchism is authoritarian, just that when it isn't it's incompatible with a globalised or even national level society. Communism is a different thing as you can have authoritarian (heavily or slightly) communism in a globalised or national society but it isn't inherently authoritarian - you can also have non authoritarian communism as a structure that doesn't work in a globalised or national society
I don't claim that anarchism is authoritarian,
You said the further you move left or right, the more authoritarian you get. Communism and anarchism exist as the most left you can get, and both advocate a complete dismantling and removal of state, and government.
Did you not know that?
Thanks for admitting your ignorance.
when it isn’t it’s incompatible with a globalised or even national level society.
[citation needed]
If anything, global statelessness is the best and most likely path to it succeeding. Also:
you can have authoritarian (heavily or slightly) communism
If there is any state whatsoever, it isn't communism OR anarchism. Neither have any authority.