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What do you think about this debate?

Let me give you some context. Two important figures in the field of artificial intelligence are taking part in this debate. On the one hand, there is George Hotz, known as "GeoHot" on the internet, who became famous for reverse-engineering the PS3 and breaking the security of the iPhone. Fun fact: He has studied at the Johns Hopkins Center for Talented Youth.

On the other hand, there's Connor Leathy, an entrepreneur and artificial intelligence researcher. He is best known as a co-founder and co-lead of EleutherAI, a grassroots non-profit organization focused on advancing open-source artificial intelligence research.

Here is a detailed summary of the transcript:

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  • "technical finesse of elon musk with the wits and charm of tony stark" this is as far as i got

    • Fair enough 😅 I know the participants are cringe, but I have shared it because I would like to hear your opinion from a Marxist perspective. GeoHot is an accelerationist and Connor I think tries to be "apolitical", you know... lol

      Anyway, I've put in the description of the post a summary of the transcript in case someone wants to know what they say without having to watch the video.

      • I feel like tech people worry too much about AGI which is a bit baffling to me. I don't think AGI is even conceivable at this point because of which a lot of what they talk about sounds like scifi world building.

        Like when Hotz says that AI technologies will improve exponentially, I don't know how he can just accept that as a fact. Sounds a bit tech utopian.

        What I worry about more is that the internet is gonna be flooded with AI generated garbage to exploit SEO for clicks. I don't want AI to replace artists, voice actors, programmers etc. because the current trajectory seems to be heading towards removing removing human labour so that the capitalist class can keep a bigger chunk of the profit rather than towards AI being used as a tool to enhance productivity.

        AI being a monopoly of big corporations is also an issue. I don't know what kind of resources it takes to train and run an LLM. But a corporation like OpenAI flush with vulture capital money will be much better placed to run the whole training pipeline. It must be a very labour and compute intensive process that a non-profit will not be able to match even if the underlying algorithms are open source. I doubt software running on a consumer's machine like LLAMA will be able to compete with something like GPT.

        I am not being coherent because I try to keep myself out of the loop when it comes to AI because I have a knee jerk aversion towards the technology. But I hope I made a semblance of a point. AGI scare is a red herring. Execute Bill Gates.

    • Both of those sound like backhanded insults lol.

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