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Lemmy.world and Lemmy.dbzer0.com defederate from anime instance Ani.social

ani.social [Announcement] Lemmy.World and lemmy.dbzer0.com has defederated from ani.social - AniSocial

To anyone who is not familiar with the situation, please read our previous post [https://ani.social/post/863176] for context. Please do not say anything hateful toward the concerned instances’ admins. — ## What happened? A few hours ago, Lemmy.World and lemmy.dbzer0.com has defederated from ani.soci...

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I posted this comment on ani.social and got banned from Lemmy.world:
Who even cares, fuck those guys.
Lemmy.world revealed how far they have their heads jammed waaaaaay up their own assholes when they released their new TOS and were patting themselves on the back about it. Then, in true Le Reddit fashion, anyone in the comments section who dared to question that decision was getting mass down voted by brainless sycophants. Lemmy.world got lucky by being the most visible and attracting the most users this past summer, but it doesn’t make them inherently special, which they clearly now believe they are.
The Fediverse is a new opportunity for internet discussion to feel free and open again rather than confined by kowtowing to corporate interests. These instances defederating from ani.social is forewarning to any users with their heads up that they are just places to avoid anyway.
Now, regardless of whether you agree with my stance or not, or if for some reason you are offended by the fuck word, is criticism of policy seriously an offense so egregious that it warrants a ban?
Of course it isn't.
And before somebody tries to cleverly point out "hurr durr you sound butthurt because you got banned from LW" that's not at all the point I am making here. I'm pointing out the sheer insecure pettiness of the administration at LW that they would get so bent out of shape from some criticism from a throwaway account that they would ban it on the spot.
Ask yourselves if you really want to make LW your home base, because I do not.
Edit: also lol at Antik, a LW admin, coming to this comments section on an alt account and arguing with people. Dozens of testy, sparring comments bordering on harassment. This is the exact immature behavior that I am calling out. He had to literally do nothing to get a win here, yet he deliberately chose to show his ass to everyone instead.
Edit 2: LW banned every user in this thread who posted a criticism of their insecurity, pettiness, irrationality and cognitive dissonance of thinking that "pictures of anime" are somehow all CSAM. They have brigaded this post - roughly 50% of the 100 comments here are from the admin or his alt literally harassing people simply because they stated they do not like LW. These are not the actions of sound-minded individuals, these are the actions of actually insane people.
- Curious that this exact comment thread looks so different on Lemmy.ca (original instance) versus how it appears on Lemmy World.
  At the time of posting this, the original thread has 13 comments as opposed to the sanitized version on Lemmy World, which has 6 comments. Naturally, all of the comments critical of LW do not appear on their version.
  
  You sure it's not just because those comments were submitted by ani.social users during the period which the instances were defederated from each other?
  
  It's from manual bans, not defederation. Both Butts@ani.social (the parent comment in this chain) and CJOtheReal@lemmy.sdf.org (commenter providing a critical summary of why people are upset) are banned at LW.
  At the time of writing this comment, by looking at the LW modlog you can see Butts was banned 3 hours ago because "fuck those guys" and 17 hours ago CJOTheReal was banned because "LW admins are assholes."
  I am guessing those ban reasons are quotes from the banned users themselves, not the actual reason why an admin personally banned them, though that hardly makes it justifiable - in fact it does the opposite by proving that LW admins actually are power tripping and banning for petty reasons.
  
  I nither of us gives a shit tbh, we just think they are power tripping like reddit mods. And Don't engage in their instance shithole. Btw at least one of the admins keeps following several users around like a creep constantly attacking the users and saying "look what they say" like anyone gives a shit...
  Let's call them spezes from now on...
  
  Or you could have a look at CJOTheReal post history and see for yourself.
  
  Because people that are banned on LW love to chime in on threads about LW with their totally sane and objective takes.
  But that's why there are more comments on this thread than if you would look at this thread from LW.
  
  I think you guys are just banning everyone disagreeing with you personally and that's why people call you out for being a clownshow...
  But who knows...
  
  Nono don't deflect. Account?
  
  lolihentai@lemmy.world
  Nah, seriously. Fuck off.
  
  I'm willing to bet that's actually it, must be since you are too embarrassed to tell. Either that or something very racist
  
  Maybe both maybe im you and we just pull a big one on the community here? Who knows?
  Maybe i am another admin on your instance?
  Maybe im just the voices in your head and you need to just fuck off to wake up?
  
  LOL COOKIEJAROBSERVER is your real account. The moderator over at Loli instance burggit.moe
  You're disgusting dude
  
  Ah yes! Of course! And where did you pull that from? Your ass?
  
  Man CJO who you think you are fooling you pedo
  
  Trying to find more loli for your collection? 🤣
- Ask yourselves if you really want to make LW your home base, because I do not.
  That was sort of my thinking as well. I've been trying to get a clear answer for a ban that archived everything to show that they were just banned for criticism, and I haven't gotten a direct answer other than a claim that contradicts the evidence.
  Purging an account, banning it, and then allowing them to sweep everything under the ban rug is a direct attack on the credibility of user accounts, and I can understand people not trusting a server with it when they do that, and it's even worse when those admins are capable of being charismatic so people are much less keen to question them.
  That's something that abusive power mods on reddit did all the time. They tried to sweep everything under the ban rug, keep quiet about it and only give out vague reasons, and then just label the user a shithead when they inevitably then had to proceed to try to scale it up, which meant trying to attract more attention, which made people question them more, which just swept them up with the people that really deserved it, and it just became a vicious cycle.
  The one big tell is that when somebody really deserves it, they don't really hide it, whereas when its much more questionable, they keep so quiet that you have to wonder whether the person in question killed anyone, which just adds to it.
  
  You can see how their admins behave in this thread...
  
  Uh, is @Antik@lemm.ee really Antik and not just someone trying to supplant their identity by naming themselves antik@lemmy.world? That .. just raises so many questions if so.
  
  Yes. Its a Lemmyworld admin with a lemmy.ee account behaving like a absolute outcast.
  No its the same person definitely otherwise he wouldn't be following me after they banned me from .world
  He is a absolutely fragile person and a creep following others around the fediverse.
  
  I mean, it would be pretty damning if confirmed, you should try reporting it to lemm.ee admins to see whether they can confirm this.
  There are people who would troll like that just to create drama, but considering how active and reactive lemmy.world admins generally are and that they are already checking this thread out, they would probably already have at least banned them on lemmy.world. They haven't ..
  
  I can personally confirm it because the guy said he banned my account and after checking the Lemmy.world modlog my account was banned around the same time, so its 100%
  
  Oh wow, you are completely right: http://web.archive.org/save/https://lemmy.world/comment/5138651
  He's accusing me of being you ... before, he was accusing me of being someone else: http://web.archive.org/web/20231107174821/https://sh.itjust.works/comment/5160618
  
  Yes please screenshot the thing and send me it, the scrollshot feature doesn't work properly on my phone for some reason. Man i need this to show around how much of a shitshow their admins are.
  And we are quiet obviously not the same person, i think he goes insane now.
  
  🤡
  
  Imagine being you man... Even having to upvote your own comments with different accounts...
  How low can you fall?
  
  Lol enjoy talking to yourself CJO?
  I posted with my main account here too. I'm @antik@lemmy.world on an alt because these accounts are banned from LW.
  
  Could you screenshot the entire thread?
  He even made a admin comment.
  
  No CJO, it's me don't worry I posted from my main account too
  
  Yeah, I saw. Just surprised to see an admin acting this way, you've basically been quite reserved up to this point from my perspective. I was really hoping to give my suspicions more of a benefit of a doubt, but you just went and accused me of being someone else for replying to their comments...
  I can't talk for your argument with them or what you are accusing them off, but you've obviously read the first of my comments in this thread, and I have nothing else to add. The only thing I am doing is what the intent of lemmy is for me, seeing how instances handle their administration to make an informed decision about how well I can trust them and participate in them. That means checking up and following up communities and posts like the one we are on. Don't let your paranoia chase your own tail.
  
  https://burggit.moe/u/cookiejarobserver
  
  .. and now you are creating links to content you claim is pedo all over the thread ..
  
  Claim is the correct word seeing the posts lol...
  
  Look at the @lemm.ee at the end of their username, this is likely an impersonated account. Certainly not the real Antik given how they behave.
  
  That's what I first was suspicious of elsewhere in the thread , but they have since made it pretty clear it was them: http://web.archive.org/save/https://lemmy.world/comment/5138651 (Or, well, here if they still haven't deleted it: https://lemmy.world/u/antik ) and have even suggested I'm an alt of the user I was replying to along with some wild but otherwise unproved claims that my account was created around the same time his was removed (he knows, or should know, why and when I created mine: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/4632925 https://sh.itjust.works/comment/4648668 )
  
  Bro that's not one of my accounts you dumbass.
  
  No surely just a random pedo defender who pops up in the same threads like you 😂
  
  Man wtf? The guy didn't defend pedophilia, he isn't me and we aren't the only two people on lemmy. Whats your fucking point?
- Lemmy.world but the world is made in China...
  
  Tankies are living in your walls
- Not reading all that.

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