A positive message/mission statement for Mastodon
A positive message/mission statement for Mastodon
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A positive message/mission statement for Mastodon · Issue #34229 · mastodon/mastodon
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Tbh it really feels like the main mission of Mastodon (just like any other FOSS social platform) is aggressive leftism promotion.
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When the Overton Window is as far to the right as it currently is, any platform that doesn't want to be in bed with the far-right will seem that way.
Call me when actual Communism is a significant player, rather than just people talking about radical ideas such as human rights or empathy.
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What do you mean by leftist here? Like, can you split it up into some actual values or aims, instead of just a high-level label?
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Well I'd say in that case it was a pretty high-level label. Obviously not all left leaning views are the same but many of them are pretty similar in terms of online censorship policy.
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I'm not trying to prove you wrong or something, I'm just trying to figure out what you mean.. What aspects of "leftism" are you seeing pushed by mastodon?
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Censorship, double standards and lies.
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Moderation of hate speech is censorship if the definition of "hate speech" is wrong (and in their case it is).
Double standards on the above mentioned term and some other ones.
Lies about the absence of double standards and wrong definitions.
TL;DR leftism is a corrupted piece of just technically changed rightism filled with duplicity.
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All politics is ultimately power, the paradox of tolerance prevents an open society from really existing. The question is, do you want to tolerate nazi's and thus empower them, pushing for nationalism, privatization, and oligarchy, or do you want to push for egalitarianism, fairness, justice, democracy, human rights, sustainability, etc. If you want the latter, you need to at some level be willing to oppose the opponents of those values beyond merely arguing with them. Because as we see with the right in the USA, if they are allowed to gain power, and they don't even share the basic values of following the rule of law, words on paper we call a constitution won't do anything. They will actively plan the destruction of the society that tolerated them.
Discussions on matters of "ought" between people who fundamentally do not share the same core values can not come to any shared conclusions based on any additional "is" statements. That's the is-ought problem. So dialogue is not ultimately the cure to fascism.
Liberals know this about opposing socialists, and do it all the time, but for some reason they draw the line at opposing nazi's.
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Well my opinion on this matter is completely opposite to yours. This does happen from time to time if different people interact with each other.
Also I was personally offended by leftists so uhm I better off just hate them forever tbh.
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How is the definition wrong?
(My understanding is that it varies a bit between servers)
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How is the definition wrong?
Their definition is "every opinion different to ours" which in my understanding is ridiculous.
(My understanding is that it varies a bit between servers)
That's true but overall similar views have similar issues.
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Their definition is “every opinion different to ours” which in my understanding is ridiculous.
That seems like some kind of nonsense you've cooked up in your head... I see people arguing about things on mastodon every day.
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Nonsense cannot be based on facts, dear internet user, and I have those (in the form of personal experience and witnesses). Also the issues only arise when a member of the side of the political spectrum in question faces a different opinion on a topic that is important to them specifically (that is a part of the double standards issue). If it's not something that can trigger them, there will be little to no issues (unless the person decides to harass the one with the opposite opinion).
What differentiates leftists from others is the inability to avoid drama and even illegal actions in such cases (though far right movements might have this issue too).
All of this makes the lies part obvious - they say they support freedom and inclusivity while openly doing the opposite. Therefore they are fascists in disguise.
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