2d ago

Valve use a little code from Godot for Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source, Team Fortress 2

www.gamingonlinux.com Valve use a little code from Godot for Half-Life 2, Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source, Team Fortress 2

This is the beauty of open source in action - everyone can benefit. Valve are no stranger to open source, and as it turns out they're using a little bit of code from Godot Engine now too.

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That's neat but Valve could do so much more for Godot by becoming a member of the Godot Foundation
- Be grateful for what valve already does for gaming.
  Edit: apparently this is a controversial thing to say
  
  Why not demand more? Costs nothing for you to ask companies to meet ever-so-slightly higher standards.
  Insisting on being grateful to any company in 2025 is wild anyway
  
  Why not demand more?
  Because who are you to demand anything from Valve?
  
  Customers
  
  It's customers are not allowed to demand better?
  You're really weird
  
  You're entitled.
  
  Well, yes
  
  The person paying every single valve employees checks. That's what a customer is. Customers have rights and are the only ones who control wether the company lives or dies.
  
  You exchange money for services. Don't act like you're selflessly saving Valve and its poor employees from bankruptcy lol.
  
  Nobody is forcing customers to exchange their money for that specific good or service. In gaming and tv, customers can also get services and products for free.
  
  They do a lot, but it doesn't mean we can't ask for more.
  
  Get a load of this 13 year old.
  How much of his moms money did he already spend on counter strike knife skins?
  
  You mean enabling gambling and MTX for an entire generation, normalizing DRM, and taxing indies 30% unfairly?
  Yeah they've done a lot of good.
  
  next fests, returns, single handedly making linux a viable gaming platform for the casual user, popularising vr, having reasonable refunds, steam client having basically all the functions youd ever need, forcing companies to be upfront about kernel level anti cheat, etc. Valve is nowhere near as bad as ea, ubisoft, etc.
  Valve is basically the only decent american big games company. I understand some need the narrative for the promised class war in order to distract you from the crisis in democracy, but not everyone with a company is literally lenin or stalin or polpot or hitler.
  
  single handedly making linux a viable gaming platform for the casual user
  Well, not really single-handedly. Most of the work was done by open source communities, Valve's part was mostly in integrating it and normalizing it, making it easy for users and giving developers an incentive to support it. They did their part and I love them for it, but I'm also grateful for all the volunteer contributions to projects like wine and dxvk!
  
  Oh yes the community laid the bricks but as we seen with linux desktop its the easy to use part thst actually gets users to go there.
  
  Guess who also made it easy for valve to use it
  
  After using lutris I very much appreciate valves huge effort that makes you forget what OS you are on since you just click play and have a good time. Where hardcore, extreme tweaking is selecting another proton from a dropdown menu. I don't even know prefixes existed until I was forced to use lutris. In my experience it seems OS communty made games run on linux so OS and linux hobbyists can play games easily. Valve made it so regular folks can play games easily. I patiently await more people to come over to linux so that I can use my hotas as well.
  
  Returns and refunds happened because the EU warned them that if they didn't, they'd create legislation so they'd have to, as they were already in a grey area under EU law. EA had a similar refund policy for games bought through Origin before Steam did.
  Other than that, nearly everything you listed was done because it made business sense and would lead to more profit. Decoupling PC gaming from Windows by working on Linux means they're not at the mercy of Microsoft's whims, and was started at a time where it looked like Microsoft might make a version of Windows that could only install third-party software through the Windows Store. Discouraging kernel-level anti cheat discourages one of the last hurdles to Linux being able to play all Windows games. Supporting VR lets them still VR games through Steam.
  Not being publicly traded lets them be concerned about their long-term profits above their short-term ones, so they won't do things that tarnish their reputation nearly as often as their competitors, and can do multi-year projects. They look good because their competitors are bad rather than because what they do is altruistic.
  Edit: I just did some maths. The Steam Deck has sold somewhere around 5 million units and a Windows licence costs somewhere around $50 to an OEM with a volume licensing deal. Both these figures are approximate as I couldn't find precise numbers, but they're enough for a ballpark figure. This means that Valve have saved around $250 million by shipping the Deck with SteamOS instead of Windows. Even if my figures are way off, it's still a huge amount of money and goes a long way towards making all their work on Linux pay for itself.
  
  What does mtx stand for?
  
  I'm assuming from context it's Micro Transactions(x). The X silent though, and also invisible, rather like the P in strawberry
  
  in programming, tx is the abbrev for transaction sometime. also for "transmit" in the context of receive and transmit when a stream (of data) is duplex (both ways). I never questioned the tx abbrev until now, but just yesterday I used it. hmm
  edit: apparenty it's pure coincidece between tx for transaction and tx part of duplex abbrevs.

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