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To Newbies, I just want to say:
If you aren't a Marxist-Leninist, you might wanna stay away from the big 3 Marxist-Leninist (aka: Tankie) instances [lemmygrad.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ml]
How could I forget my Tankie Triad warning LMAO
Agreed, also if you're not a Neoliberal I would stay away from World (or if you're Queer, a minority, or someone who isnt comfortable with seeing bigotry).
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for people interested (now I'm not sure that's something we should show to new joiners ha ha)
Wanted to say this too. It's Lemmy's biggest problem and keeps putting me off. I don't recommend Lemmy to people in person anymore because of them. I don't know if I would be more disturbed if they're mostly state actors astroturfing or just deeply unwell real people
What do you think of this idea? https://lemmy.world/post/24268267
Oh don't insult marxists leninists like that. I guess what you really mean is that those instances are for russia/china simps or nationalists. There's nothing marxist about their views.
Just recommend the biggest instance that isn't federated with them. Anyone got a list?
I do think it's valuable to recommend the bigger instances. If they're on a big instance, they don't have to worry about federation at all at first. It takes no effort to slowly learn about federation, and later they have the option to move to a smaller instance.
This lemmy.zip person didn't have a good onboarding experience. @zombiegirl2010@lemmy.zip maybe?
That’s actually me. I simply didn’t want to carry over that username but I guess I should claim it too. Lol
Yeah, I originally joined Lemmy during the first Reddit exodus. Then, I squirreled and did not spend the necessary time to learn much about it. However, this go around I’m here and I’m serious about learning it and using Reddit much much less (in hopes to abandoning it eventually).
Some folks helped me to find apps. I’m using Avelon and I really like it. It makes figuring Lemmy out MUCH EASIER than simply bookmarking.
Glad to see you here!
The reason I push people to Lemmy.World is that you mostly don't need to learn anything about federation. It's obvious enough over time what the @ symbols are, and you basically pick it up through osmosis.
If you start on a really small instance, your people might not subscribe to many foreign communities. If nobody subscribes to a foreign community, it doesn't get pulled over and doesn't show up in ALL. That can make Lemmy look pretty barren, and you have to go out and find communities (somehow) on your own.
If you start at Lemmy.World, the all tab just works. The local tab is even a fine experience, though I wouldn't use it here. Similar arguments with lemmy.ca and sopuli.xyz for Canada and Europe. Their all tabs might be slightly worse, but for those people the local tab should be better (actually more local), balancing it out.
Their all tabs might be slightly worse
You are aware that with 1140 and 496 monthly active users, and the use of https://lemmy-federate.com/, the All tab on those instances, as well as any other instance with more than 100 monthly active is going to be the same than on LW, right?
This used to be true a while ago, but any instance in the top 20 (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/ ) is going to give the same All feed.
Well that one user sure seemed to have issues.
I see
Sounds great, and good choice of instance.
Here is a list of communities to help you get started: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35001146
I wish there were an instance agnostic way to link that post.
Looks like it might be a thing coming soon?
That's pretty good. I also just saw that you matched their instance, which is great for that particular person.
I usually do that for new joiners, especially because here they have to interact with the content.
Thank you!
Sorted by "most active", these are the ones I recommend:
sh.itjust.works [Users 28,811 total; 2,465 / month]
lemmy.ca [Users 8,604 total; 1,138 / month]
sopuli.xyz [Users 4,967 total; 496 / month]
infosec.pub [Users 4,240 total; 325 / month] (this also defeds lemmy.ml, which the ones above doesn't do, but this is kinda small)
Edit: Also, if someone make an account on a small instance and just search and subscribe to everything, then it would make sure the communities are synched. (someone please go do that)
There's also this one, [Users 172,000 total; 27,400 / month]
That's going to be the smoothest experience for people who "don't want to deal" with federation. They can always move later.
In EVE Online we refer to this as the Brave Newbies area, the biggest, zergiest group where you don't need to know what you're doing. It functions as a training ground and feeder group for the more elite groups.
I've just had a look at your Reddit history, and you seem to very insist on Lemmy.world (https://old.reddit.com/user/serinus)
Any reason not to show people to other instances? https://sopuli.xyz/ is a popular choice for Europe, and https://discuss.online/ has a good track record for a US-based instance.
A potential interesting post: https://lemmy.world/post/24577309
Because it's the smoothest experience for new people. If you by default end up on the local tab, it's not barren.
I agree sopuli is great for Europe and lemmy.ca is great for Canada. sh.itjust.works is also reasonable. But people looking for general social media will have the easiest time on Lemmy.World that is the most similar to the centralized experience that they're used to.
If you want people to actually give Lemmy a fair shot, and don't have a specific reason to guide them elsewhere, I think it's wise to point them to .world. They can always leave later, after they're more familiar with federation and Lemmy.
Lemmy.world is on 0.19.3, so they are missing the following features (https://lemmy.ml/c/announcements for the details)
The second is a very valid point for privacy, the one that caused the whole GDPR issue in March 2024: https://tech.michaelaltfield.net/2024/03/04/lemmy-fediverse-gdpr/
The last one is useful when you doubt whether the person you are talking to is commenting in good faith.
So yes, LW is okay, but there are other instances which offer a better experience, especially with the status pages that a lot of them have:
There are also several occurrences of LW staff power tripping without coming back after other users have provided evidence that they may not have taken the best decision: https://lemmy.world/comment/14411953
Edit: Also, if someone make an account on a small instance and just search and subscribe to everything, then it would make sure the communities are synched. (someone please go do that)
Lemmy Federate streamlines this.
sh.itjust.works only exposes you to Lemmy.ml but that's been mostly okay.
I know right, ML Tankies are so much worse than fascist capitalist Nazi's, they sure spoil everything amirite (watches a capitalist do a nazi salute at a presidential inauguration). Lets continue to ignore politics and see where this goes.
