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Let's make Windows 10 the last version ever used!

Sat. 28 Dec. 11h Stage YELL #KDEEco 's Call To Action against e-waste driven by #Windows10.

https://events.ccc.de/congress/2024/hub/en/event/opt-green-coordinating-a-windows-10-to-linux-upcycling-campaign-across-free-software-communities-worldwide/

Mon. 30 Dec. 13-15h B&B habitat join the BoF to organize a global #FreeSoftware campaign to raise awareness of Windows 10's EoL in 2025, the role of software in #eWaste, and how independent, sustainable #FOSS is a solution to keep devices in use & out of the landfill.

https://fahrplan.alpaka.space/jugend-hackt-38c3-2024/talk/ST8NJA/

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@be4foss
@kde @NafiTheBear
I would really love it if we could get normal people using Linux but Linux has to come to them in terms of usability, to be honest. The Steam Deck did it, so it's clearly doable.
But in the state of things we're in, I'm afraid that most people are gonna follow Windows to Windows 11. and their understandings of how computing is will be mutilated by it.
and therefore we get more anprims per capita, because if you think that's not at least in part downstream of big tech fuckery you're lying to yourself
- Linux ain't the problem there. Usability is more of that nonsense thought up by corporations to scare people. Computers are tricky, whether Windows or Linux, and the only reason Windows is more popular is they've been installing it on people's computers without asking for decades. Honestly most people don't even have computers these days. All they get to have is a phone.
  CC: @be4foss@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social @NafiTheBear@bears.town
  
  I agree. I am quite comfortable with computers but, since I have switched to Linux about 10 years ago, I struggle any time I am asked for help on a Windows system.
  It's not intuitive at all. Among the quirks, there are still 2 separate control panels that overlap, but not completely, then you have ever-buggy OneDrive, invasive notifications, a convoluted Start menu, …
  People find it simple only because they are used to it.
  
  Like many abuse victims, they apologize and don't even see how bad it is. I see... things are... bad on all fronts. We need right to repair, and abolish trademark and copyright, and idea patents. And friends near us.
- You're so close. What's actually needed is that it comes pre-installed by default.
- @gyro @be4foss @kde @NafiTheBear i think a significant amount of people are going to just not bother buying another laptop once their Win10 one sucks too much, because they're on their phones for everything these days
  
  @kylepegasus
  @be4foss @kde @NafiTheBear
  Well that's depressing, that gonna put us so much further away from ever making things good again
  
  It's certainly an interesting move from the side of Microsoft. Discontinuing W10 will certainly lose them some marketshare.
- @gyro @be4foss @kde the goal of that event is very ambitious I agree, but if I see that alone this year I myself made 4 friends and my mom to move to Linux then getting Linux to a solid market share and minimalising waste is a practicable goal.
  I wouldn't say it was easy. It is hard work and explaining a normal person what the difference between X11 and Wayland is is next to impossible.
  There will be some people who just can't afford a new PC and we basically just need to help them.

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