anytype — decentralized, p2p, e2ee 'Notion' like app
anytype — decentralized, p2p, e2ee 'Notion' like app
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I've been evaluating this for the last few weeks, and have decided to migrate all my notes over.
The free 1gb of cloud storage is incredibly generous, and since I don't use much media in my notes, it's really all I need.
Interested to see how they price it in the long run.
Wait, wasn't the idea about this project being p2p? Where does the cloud come in?
Haven't tried it yet, but it looks rather interesting.
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In that case, why do the notes only sync when the devices are on the same local network?
I'll install the app later to see what actually is going on, as this makes little sense to me.
EDIT: from their website:
No server, no gatekeeper: peer-to-peer sync on local networks
But from their FAQ:
Anyone can get started with Anytype, free of charge. If you self-host your data, Anytype is and will always be free to use. For those who use our backup services, you can use Anytype up to 1GB of storage for free. If you need more, please contact us.
So in other words: it's not actually (only) p2p, you can use your own devices with p2p, but they also offer a centralized cloud (which they host) for those who do not want the hassle.
Sounds slightly misleading, but all is fine if they properly warn the user in the app.
EDIT: Also, it would be incredibly scammy if they took money for hosting other peoples notes on your devices, so I'm glad that that is not the case. :D
Details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36802263
It's not an account you create in a classical way using a server. It's locally generated data wallet ( we need it for encryption and sync). We talk via on-boarding that your wallet will be synced, and that your data is encrypted only with the key generated on your machine. It's for people who don't want to mess with self-hosting. If you want you can make your build from GitHub, disconnect sync, or just self-host yours. This way our promise works.
Thank you. I've been looking at their self hosting documentation, which appears to still be a centralized solution, just under your ownership.
The way they handle accounts is rather nice, nothing new, you see it in Joplin and the likes, but it is definitely better than having an unencrypted account on a company-owned server.
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That's just my interpretation of their sales pitch. I might very well be wrong on some terms, but I feel that it's good to discuss and getting these things written down in the comment sections. So thank you for indulging me. :)
It's worth trying. I am already loving it.
Interested to see how they price it in the long run.
I'm interested to see the pricing before I jump on. It ticks every box with it being local/offline first and open source.
I’ve been reading their FAQ and this sounds very reasonable:
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If you want to use their cloud for backup, it will have a cost (they have not come with one yet because they have not come that far yet. It’ll depend on their hosting cost and such).
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But if you want to just sync between your own devices without their server, you can, and it’ll be totally free (they insist that “your data is always yours and only yours”)
That's good to know. I'll keep an eye on it. I'm very content with Obsidian atm. For anytype the p2p device sync is definitely the alluring factor for me.
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