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Sadly, I keep trying to explain this to tankies, but they insisted NOT voting for Kamala because she wasn't going to use the Dragon Balls to bring back every Palestinian killed by Israel was a power move...
Anyway, that's how Donald Trump got re-elected
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Amazing that you think this post is promoting punching leftwards in support of electionism
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You're right. We liberals saw that Kamala and Biden did only the bare minimum genocide necessary. It's better than the extreme amounts of genocide trump is doing. Tankies often miss this point.
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The point isn't that there's a magical "Correct Amount" of genocide that is acceptable.
The point is that there is no magical solution that saves Palestine, there was however an option that made an already horrible scenario even worse, and that's the option we took in large part thanks to people who thought not voting would be good for anyone's health.
Kamala may not have cared about the lives she was helping snuff out under Biden's watchful eye, but at least she wasn't outright planning to build a fucking resort atop the mass graves. (Trump Gaza ring any bells to you?)
By the way, I'm a transwoman, I'm seeing ciswomen get awarded for "Standing up" against my kind, as my existence is being publically reframed as an affront to women's rights in what I can only imagine is the greatest dream TERF-kind ever had.
This wouldn't be happening under Kamala.
There are already states planning to illegalize "Gender Identity Fraud" in attempt to CRIMINALIZE MY VERY EXISTENCE
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The point isn’t that there’s a magical “Correct Amount” of genocide that is acceptable.
But there is an amount you were able to accept, an acceptable amount, if you will.
there was however an option that made an already horrible scenario even worse
No. The genocide was just as bad under Democrats, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, it's better that Trump won, because at least liberals acknowledge what's happening when he does it, rather than downplaying and denying it.
And that's a real killer for the "lesser evil argument": that the people making it seem to lose the ability to appraise their evil correctly.
but at least she wasn’t outright planning to build a fucking resort atop the mass graves. (Trump Gaza ring any bells to you?)
Jesus Christ. You people really do only care about appearances and don't give a shit about human life. She also planned on exterminateing the Palestinians and building on the mass graves, but because it would just be fascist settlements and not something garish like a resort, that's fine?
Again, the lesser evil argument falls flat when everyone espousing it loses their ability to identify what evil is.
By the way, I’m a transwoman, I’m seeing ciswomen get awarded for “Standing up” against my kind, as my existence is being publically reframed as an affront to women’s rights in what I can only imagine is the greatest dream TERF-kind ever had. This wouldn’t be happening under Kamala.
And there is: it's all fine so long as you personally aren't on the receiving end of the genocide.
When the Democratic party decides that Trans people are a necessary sacrifice and joins the Republicans in calling for their repression, are you still going to be demanding everyone votes for them?
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The point is that there is no magical solution that saves Palestine, there was however an option that made an already horrible scenario even worse,
First of all, the democrats were in charge when most of the genociding was happening. They let it get this bad in the first place, don't play it off like it was just some pre existing scenario that was handed to us.
Secondly, by the sounds of it, you accepted that what was happening to the gazans. In order for the democrats to have a chance to win, it was necessary. So tell me why you have a problem with my wording?
Edit: and now if we're looking for someone to blame.. We obviously didn't do anything wrong so it's clearly the anti genocide voters. I don't know why you have such a problem with me, I'm just agreeing with y'all!!
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Secondly, by the sounds of it, you accepted that what was happening to the gazans. In order for the democrats to have a chance to win, it was necessary. So tell me why you have a problem with my wording?
Edit: and now if we’re looking for someone to blame… We obviously didn’t do anything wrong so it’s clearly the anti genocide voters. I don’t know why you have such a problem with me, I’m just agreeing with y’all!!
Because your wording is not only in bad faith, but you're twisting what we're saying to suit your own agenda
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How so?
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Yep, it's sad, but the
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"We liberals".
Yeah right. Troll harder.
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Nothing says "I'm not part of this group" quite like "We [group]s"
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I don't know what you want from me, if the genocide was unnecessary then why did the dems allow it to happen? Like clearly it is necessary for our democracy?
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