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Arguments after dinner
Arguments after dinner
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this cartoon implies that liberal and progressive citizens are equally responsible for the lack of attention to the owner class, when they're the only ones criticizing and trying to rein in the 1% while at the same time trying to defend against incessant attacks on pretty much every part of their identity from the bleating moron maga lemmings
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Left and Right aren't a useful representation of a person's political beliefs. I don't think this cartoon is saying left and right are the same. I think it's saying that the billionaire class is using useful idiots to help separate the working class and keep them fighting amongst ourselves.
Absolutely push back against what you see as harmful patterns and always support and defend the rights of others. If you hear someone dehumanizing immigrants or LGBTQA+ or any at risk population of course speak up.
But also challenge the logic of that person. Ask them how they believe what they believe and who benefits. You're never going to reason someone out of a position they never reasoned themselves into, but you can learn the bullshit talking points they're being fed to head off those effects for someone else.
The only way we fight Fascism in this country will be to empower each other and engender support for anti fascist action. Build mutual aid in your community and be as involved as possible politically.
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Mutual Aid Hub is a beautiful project — absolutely an URL to be shared and saved, thank you.
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they’re the only ones criticizing and trying to rein in the 1%
Progressives, maybe. But right after the Harris loss, I saw a flood of her liberal supporters deciding the LGBTQ caucus cost her the election.
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Me too, especially the T. The manipulation is so everpresent, some of us manipulate ourselves.
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We all manipulate ourselves and are manipulated constantly. It's about trying to recognize when it's happening and correct yourself. Or be open to people that are trying to help you correct yourself.
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As a transwoman nothing frightened me more than being told that the rise of fascism was my fault for existing, even though I did everything to get the vote out for Kamela
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Liberals don't want corporate tyranny and conservatives don't want government tyranny. How do we get people to realize they're the same thing?
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trying to rein in the 1%
Choose only one. Liberals are those that subscribe to capitalism. You cannot be against the bourgeois while being for capitalism. It is contradictory.
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You cannot ever get folks on our side using words like 'bourgeois'.
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Baffling statement. "Bourgeois" is one of two words that define the way my 'side' views the world. I don't think you and I are on the same side.
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It's a question I've wondered for decades: Why do so many socialists speak in code-words — Bolsheviks, bourgeoisie, Engels, Marx, proletaritat, etc — which only push people away? Socialism is a grand concept; why not translate it into English?
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Is this satire?
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This, what you say is not as important as "How you say it"
See the idiots going "I hate Obamacare, but I love ACA!"
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How about "owning class"?
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It's a good start, but I'd go with 'owners' and occasionally stress, 'all owners.'
People respect plain speaking, and suspect convoluted speaking. If we want to win folks over, plain speaking is the way.
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Drag owns a toothbrush. Drag isn't a member of the owning class, but drag is in the most literal sense an "owner". Drag recognises you're using a technical definition of a common term, but drag doesn't think liberals will understand. They'll see your language as convoluted.
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Drag, good to see you again buddy
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I needed this & I love Drag.
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This is verifiably false. Please connect with people before spewing misinformation about how you think they act.
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I don't think you can say that with any factual basis, as what you're replying to was a general sentiment and not a statement of fact. You're assuming a lot without asking for any clarification.
You sound just as combative as the person you're replying to. I don't know if that was your purpose but your reply reads as dismissive and patronizing.
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It’s fascinating how many fancy words you just used to say “nuh-uh” to the reality in front of people lmao
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Which part is false? Honestly curious
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Seriously. These narrow-minded generalizations only serve the rich.
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