China’s plan to get around Western tariffs: Fill the world with factories
In response to the trade war, the Asian giant is investing billions of dollars abroad in plants, especially in industries linked to the energy transition
Please try your best to engage in good faith and not make things up.
if you want, you can try restating the argument you were trying to make before you slipped and typed out a ramble about how the us is bad
The original topic was investment
money isn't the only thing you invest when you set up a manufacturing base
if you want, you can try restating the argument you were trying to make before you slipped and typed out a ramble about how the us is bad
Slipped up? I directly responded to the comparison to US offshoring that you made to explain why this is different. I guess you have no answer.
Please do your best to act in good faith. It's okay for you to say, "that's a good point, I will think about it" or not reply at all. It is not okay for you to make things up.
money isn't the only thing you invest when you set up a manufacturing base
If you took ten seconds to think about it, having any financial component makes my point correct and yours incorrect. Your zero sum game logic simply does not apply on multiple levels, as I have explained.
This might be clearer to you if you actually dealt with what I said instead of cherry picking.
I directly responded to the comparison to US offshoring that you made to explain why this is different.
and your argument boiled down "us bad china good"
If you took ten seconds to think about it, having any financial component makes my point correct and yours incorrect.
genuinely, what are you talking about?
and you're coming at me to say that if money changes hands then that's not the case?
and your argument boiled down "us bad china good"
It doesn't, but you seem enamored with pretending this. If you actually responded to what I said rather than deflecting you might learn something. Or at least not repeat openly dishonest claims.
genuinely, what are you talking about?
The next sentence added all the context you should need. Zero sum logic doesn't apply here and part of the reason is the financial component. You'd be less confused if you engaged directly instead of dithering and avoiding what I say.
you can't invest in factories abroad without by definition investing less in factories at home because resources are finite
You keep repeating yourself rather than look at what I've already said. You would be less confused if you stopped avoiding my points about finance and neoliberal approaches and foreign direct investment and dollar recycling.
us outsourcing started with "it's just supplemental" too
I've already addressed this many times.
so you can't use that as a bulwark against any notion of further outsourcing
I don't even consider all FDI to be outsourcing, including this. This is because of the actual financial and geopolitical productive underpinnings of China's strategy. This is all part of BRI.
You are confused because you are just arguing with yourself rather than try and understand others.
If you actually responded to what I said rather than deflecting you might learn something.
restate your point if you fluffed it up the first time, but no, what you provided initially was devoid of anything worth responding to
You keep repeating yourself rather than look at what I've already said.
because what you've said is nonsense that doesn't address anything i'm saying
let's keep this real simple: do you agree or not with the fact that spending resources to set up a factory in location A means you, right now, have fewer resources to spend setting up a factory in location B?
if no, where do the additional resources come from in the here and now? and, more importantly, why has china not already constructed an infinite number of factories?
restate your point if you fluffed it up the first time
but no, what you provided initially was devoid of anything worth responding to
If you would like to continue this conversion, you will have to respond to it. In fact, I will ignore the rest of what you say until you do. Good luck.
i see you realized that building factories isn't free
congratulations
I await your reply to things I've actually said.
