What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
What are the applications that I can remove from Mint? + Mini Rant.
What are the packages that comes default with Linux Mint Cinnamon that I can remove without any problems.
Linux Mint comes with lots of packages installed by default to give full experience to new users. But not everyone needs everything. In my case for example, I don't need celluloid, pix, hexchat, hypnotix, rhythmbox, LibreOffice, etc,... Those applications has their own audience and Linux Mint including them is a good thing but I personally don't want them.
Mini Rant or QA maybe?
I searched the internet a bit for the answer, on various forums, and subreddits. And All the people who asked this question got obliterated as far as I've seen. The common answers are:
if you remove the applications that came installed with Mint by default, it will cause Dependency issues.
If I remove an application and the dependencies shold be removed UNLESS some other application need those dependency, right? If that's the case, why removing packages can cause dependency issues?
Why would you want to remove essential applications like LibreOffice, pix etc. ? (this question is asked in the sense of "what sane person would want to remove those?")
Cause why not? Maybe I like GwenView more than Pix, maybe I don't need office applications at all. Why this even matter?
If you want don't want Mint's default applications, then what's the point of using Mint? Just use something like Ubuntu server or something. People need to realize that lot of people (at least me) using Mint for it's System management (updates, apt source list, etc..) via GUI ability. Just because I want to manage my system with ease, that doesn't mean I need everyt applications it offers me.
I honestly feel bad for the person who asked the question in the first place. They didn't got the answers till the very end. All they got is Criticism and it's not constructive one.
Why this kind of behaviour even exist?
P.S.: I'm using Mint inside VM for testing purposes. I don't want my VM to take a lot of space. That's why I don't need lot of applications.
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Mint is actually really good about not having weird dependency chains, and even if it did uninstalling apps would warn you about it. That is a very strange thing for people to have said. It is perfectly normal and good to have some things you don't want or prefer an alternative to and uninstall them. Default Mint is a great sane starting point for a complete OS, and I think their updater is the best in the entire Linux world, but it's still Linux. You can still customize it to your heart's content. Anyone who says otherwise is just being a creep.
There are a lot of linux people out there who are...very odd. I ran into a bunch who laughed at the thought of a gui terminal server - something i've been working with professionally for over two decades. Some really don't understand jack nor shit and just parrot half-truths and poor knowledge like it's gospel. "Don't uninstall apps, you'll break shit!!" No, uninstalling apps improperly breaks shit...
/rant
(Btw if i see one more person wail about how terrifying it is to run DD ima choke a bitch....)
Fun DD story time, I guess.
I, back when I was a very young and very dumb kid doing sysadmin things I shouldn't have been doing, broke a production DNS server with it.
I needed a boot floppy to install on another system, and the DNS box was RIGHT THERE, with a floppy drive.
No big deal, just a simple dd command:
dd if=redhat-boot.img of=/dev/hda
Okay cool I have a boot floppy, wait it didn't work? Weird. DNS is down? Also weird.
In conclusion, lol.
It's always DNS (unless it's NTP).
So now should we add dd to DNS and NTP? No. dd an image over something you shouldn't is simply a daft thing to do and I'm sure many here use dd instead of a GUI or something more friendly that stops you from doing the daft thing. However, forgetting to consider DNS and NTP is when you cease to be a technician. DNS and NTP failure cause way more problems than they should at a casual glance.
When I was a lad people used to riff on # rm -r ./ * destroying systems (lol). Bear in mind that . means current directory and .. means parent directory and that all directories apart from / have both . and .. entries. So rm -r should walk both upwards and then downwards. Even better, because Unix type systems can do this sort of thing, deleting the rm binary itself won't stop the destruction. I'm not sure when the box would eventually panic, if at all. I think I'll clone a VM and find out.
rm these days won't do that. It even has a --no-preserve-root option ...
Oooooooof lol
One of my big Wayland gripes is how hard it is to set up a terminal server. AFAIK the most recent gnome is the only thing that can do it and it’s session doesn’t persist over disconnects.
I actually had pretty good success using the ol' RDP hack, both in mint and ubuntu. This is a fun guide once you get past the raging unearned elitsm "apparently this is a thing" yeah no shit idiot I used to run it on friggin' NT
I love xrdp, but it isn’t compatible with Wayland. Issue when some distros are looking to fully remove Xorg in the near future.
have you tried KRdp?
edit: Huh, apparently supports it natively?
Wayland sessions support RDP in Ubuntu 21.04 and later. To enable it just go to: Settings > Sharing > Screen Sharing
The caveat being it is sharing the local console and the session needs to be logged in on the local console first, literal screen sharing. The most recent Gnome can create a new virtual session but it is not persistent, if your network hiccups you must log in again and it is a brand new blank slate. They are getting closer though.
Ugh, yeah that's a dealbreaker. At that point you may as well install a remote kvm or use the console in IPMI/IDRAC
I ran into a bunch who laughed at the thought of a gui terminal server
I just don't understand the terminal gatekeepers. Isn't it nice to have GUI, you don't have to remember endless number of commands, right?
If you don't want GUI, then just use terminal.
Personally, I'm not afraid of terminal or anything, it may be even the faster way of doing things. But I like GUI, where every option is just laid out for you.
Terminal in this instance meaning "endpoint", not command line
Ik man. I'm just saying that they laughed at you for needing gui for 'terminal' (endpoint), suggesting that you should use 'terminal' (cli)
The most ridiculous thing was i clearly explained this was for users on a closed network to have a machine they coukd rdp to for email and browsing. I mean yeah you can totally access your mail via terminal but there's a reason I haven't done that outside postfix checks since 1997
Infuriating man.
Just like @SirBoostALot@hear-me.social said,
And boy do those people get pissed off when you don't just accept their "expert" advice even though they are telling you to do the ONE thing they were requested NOT to suggest (I had actually already tried most of what they had suggested anyway).
Thanks man.