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Israel's democratically elected right wing government.
- The US had Trump for 4 years and are threatening to do it again, so we don't have a finger to point.
  
  Yeh, and I'd say he's fairly representative of the US.
  
  I'm sorry but i just don't agree with that.
  Even if 70% voted for trump, the other 30% are good people and don't deserve to be thrown in with the fascists.
  
  But, in that hypothetical, it would be true to say that 70% of Americans support fascism. Which is unpleasant to have to accept.
  I learned at the Brexit referendum that 52% of my countrymen are so racist they'd wreck their own economy to reduce immigration. I have to live with that. I live in a racist country.
  
  That (and the trump election actually) was only possible with a massive amount of disinformation and populism. I don't think everyone that voted like that was properly informed.
  
  Counterpoint: Bollocks though. Most of the disinformation was to appeal to people's desire for authoritarianism in Trump's case, and border control in Brexit's. With plenty of bleedover, of course, because it's all from the same playbook.
  
  No, not being a magat does not make you a good person by default.
  There a plenty of people that would vote for a slightly more palatable republican. Or trump if he wasn't coming for them personally.
  Like I know plenty of people who are immigrants or descendents of immigrants who would be all for purging trans people, restricting women's rights to abortion etc. But won't vote Trump because of how anti immigrant/ racist he is.
- They violate human rights, it doesn't really matter to me if they are elected.
  
  Im saying its not just the government to blame, the people of israel are also responsible.
  
  They didn't all vote for the current government.
- Is elected by Israelis, and not Jews in general, which is OP's point.

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