Nintendo is suing the makers of the Switch emulator Yuzu, claims 'There is no lawful way to use Yuzu'

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Nintendo says Yuzu played a large role in encouraging piracy of The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom.

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Nintendo is suing the makers of the Switch emulator Yuzu, claims 'There is no lawful way to use Yuzu'

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Love how the courts are framing this. "ROMs are illegal software." "Emulators are for playing pirated software."
Fuck you, Nintendo. You made $1.6bil in profits last year. I bet the number of pirated copies of Zelda: TotK barely amount to a fraction of a percent of that.
- Love how the courts are framing this. “ROMs are illegal software.” “Emulators are for playing pirated software.”
  Ngl I kinda want them to use this logic and see what happens when they try to apply it to Nintendo’s own Virtual Console, which are emulators playing ROMs basically.
  Hell, the games you can play in Animal Crossing are literal emulators with ROMs since they found iNES data in the headers.
  
  EULA for us not for them.
- The courts aren't. Nintendo is.
  Emulation has already been litigated to hell and back. It's very clearly legal, including relying on users pulling a blob or two from their hardware for the whole thing to function.
  
  Where has pulling proprietary blobs been litigated? I was under the impression it hadn't been.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SonyComputerEntertainment,Inc.v.ConnectixCorp.
  
  Yeah that would make sense except you missed a key point:
  Connectix's development strategy was based upon reverse engineering the PlayStation's BIOS firmware, first by using the unchanged BIOS to develop emulation for the hardware, and then by developing a BIOS of their own using the original firmware as an aid for debugging.
  The whole point here is that Connectix used Sony's BIOS to develop their own BIOS. Yuzu is not doing that. They don't have their own BIOS they are providing to their users. They are telling people to use Nintendo's bios, but that they aren't providing it.
  
  To put this another way, Yuzu relies on Nintendo's BIOS to function. Connectix's Game Station did not.
- I believe Nintendo's argument has more to do with dumping the prod.keys than with using dumped "Roms"
  
  This. This seems to be the argument that Nintendo is hinging on. In order for Yuzu to play the games properly you need a prod.keys file. I guess Nintendo is claiming that the keys in this file are owned by them and it's illegal to have that number much in the same way the number used to represent the C code for decoding DVD copy protection is illegal: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number#Illegal_primes
  I am no lawyer but seems tenuous when you can run a program to get the prod.keys from your own console. Especially when that code is legal and exists on GitHub: https://github.com/Decscots/Lockpick_RCM

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