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Their "dogshit" drivers work great on X and did so back when ATis hardware was both closed source and hot garbage on Linux and they were utter trash all the way from early 2000s to 2014.
Ok. I'm not really interested in how things were in 2008. I'm interested in the here and now, which is where Wayland is widely used and increasingly used by the day, Nvidia's drivers are a mess and AMD's aren't.
Person A: Man these Nvidia drivers keep causing issues
Person B: Umm ackshully Nvidia drivers used to be better than ATI drivers in 2008 ☝️🤓
Nvidia drivers continue to work great under X 2003-2024 for me. I'm sure Nvidia will work well under Wayland long before I bother to switch. The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware and many have spent years lying about Wayland being totally ready in 2015-2022 after they spent years lying about AMD GPU drivers being great in 2008-2013 when both were largely unusable in that time frame. Since few of the haters actually own any Nvidia hardware I presume they get their information from stroking each-others ego on reddit/lemmy/mastodon.
Yeah but X11 is unsuitable for modern computing.
The same folks who are always shitting on Nvidia seem to all own AMD hardware
Many do... because they know Nvidia is plagued with issues. Why would they buy hardware they've had/will have issues with?
I had to get rid of my 1080 Ti because of how unusably bad the Linux drivers were. AMD has ran great, out of the box, on X11 and Wayland. Wayland has been great, used it for years with no issues outside of with Nvidia hardware.
Maybe when Nvidia gets their shit together and have drivers that work properly ill give them another go.
I have a 1080. The drivers are great under X. I've been using nvidia hardware since 2003. Driver support has always been pretty good.
But their driver support isn't good, as is widely reported.
Even by the guy who literally created the kernel.
Linus didn't say they didn't work he doesn't like their failure to play nice with others. You can't use that cop out.
Maintaining good Linux drivers for something like a graphics card very much requires work with others.
It's a big reason for why Nvidia's drivers are pretty crappy.
Calling it a cop out sounds like major cope. Nvidia drivers on Linux are crappy. There's a reason everybody complains about them.
Nvidia's drivers for X have always been very good. Their drivers for wayland will be good before Wayland is
Nail on the head.
Lol