2y ago

Italy starts removing lesbian mothers’ names from children’s birth certificates

www.cnn.com Italy starts removing lesbian mothers' names from children's birth certificates | CNN

The northern Italian city of Padua has started removing the names of non-biological gay mothers from their children’s birth certificates under new legislation passed by the “traditional family-first” government of Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

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From the article "Surrogacy is illegal in Italy, and gay marriage has not been legalized. Because same-sex relationships aren’t recognized in law, the non-biological parent has to make a special case for legally adopting their child."
Makes sense, local government is simply following the law.
- y'all ever consider changing the law instead of enforcing something monstrous?
  
  Having the birth-parents on the birth certificate is ‘monstrous’? Come now.
  
  As someone who probably would have had to deal with a decade of abuse and neglect as a child if such a change had happened in Texas 20 years ago, I can prefer confidently say yes, it is monstrous.
  
  Who would be abusing you for your birth parents being on your birth certificate? The only people who see that document are the people raising you and the DMV/Passport office.
  
  ....do you not understand how an abusive parent being on the birth certificate would have legal and custody implications?
  That's not something that only the DMV/passport office sees, family judges see and may use that to determine custody arrangements, which can lead to abuse. I'm not sure how you managed to ignore the biggest and most obvious implications of changing parentage on the birth certificate.
  
  …do you not understand how an abusive parent being on the birth certificate would have legal and custody implications?
  One's adoptive parents have full custody, that is the point of adoption.
  
  It's unfortunate that this community just mass downvotes anyone percieved as going against the approved narrative, even if it's literally just stating facts.
  
  Who would be abusing you for your birth parents being on your birth certificate
  Nobody because he's just making up random conjecture out of his ass so he can pretend he's persecuted
  
  That's not what it said. It said it only allows biological parents and that adoption by same sex parents requires special permission. Please don't change the argument until something else.
- You realize most atrocities in history were done "just following the law", right?
- Makes sense, local government is simply following the law.
  ... is what a fascist sympathizer would say in this situation.
  
  Hey buddy, fascism isn't just whenever you don't actually have the ability to defend your position
- I'm Italian and I'm ashamed.
- You know how many outmoded and idiotic laws are still on the books, but are simply ignored because it's embarrassing to even acknowledge them? Law is not absolute.
  
  Absolutely. So they should be able to ignore the above quoted law.

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