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You're right. Criminals own guns only in the united states.
Maybe try not to be a clown.
The United States of America is the best/easiest place in the world to own guns. It's the only place you can get a gun at a convenience store. In fact, in most states, a background check isn't required unless you're buying from a federally licensed firearm dealer.
The above is a copypaste, but it gets the point across perfectly. It's vey easy to get a gun in the USA, unlike in many other countries.
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We had two mass shootings in the UK and banned guns, no mass shootings since. Same in NZ and Australia.
We had two mass shootings in the UK and banned guns, no mass shootings since.
Factually wrong. Most recent was 2023...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_Kingdom
Why lie?
Same in NZ
Most recent 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_New_ZealandMore lies...
and Australia.
Most recent 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_AustraliaAnd batting 3 for 3 in lies! Each country has absolutely had mass shootings since they banned guns. Claiming "No mass shootings since" is just lying. At least be honest when you argue your point please.
I wouldn't expect you to understand statistics, but 1 per year versus 620 is noise ya jabroni.
UK still has shotguns, but no hand guns or semi automatic rifles.
There have been no mass killings on the scale of Dunblaine or Hungerford since banning those weapons.
But please carry on with your denial
I wouldn’t expect you to understand statistics, but 1 per year versus 620 is noise ya jabroni.
2023 - 1 so far... 2022 - 2 2021 - 3 2020 - 2
So even after letting you move the goal-post from NEVER... you moved it to 1 per year... and STILL got it wrong even though I gave you the source.
But that's not the point I was even trying to make... The homicide rate in the UK was virtually unaffected for each weapons ban enacted. All that's happened is that murders that would have been conducted via gun, just happen in other ways now. Also keep in mind that nearly all of the "western" world has been on a downtrend at the same rate for a long while now on homicides/murder/violent crime.
UK still has shotguns, but no hand guns or semi automatic rifles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_the_United_Kingdom#Legal_classification
You sure about that captain?
Pistols...
This law created a new market for "long-barrelled revolvers" and "long-barrelled pistols",
Rifles...
UK law does not provide a statutory definition for a "rifle".
I'm starting to think you might not even know the laws in your own country... Forget the USA...
There have been no mass killings on the scale of Dunblaine or Hungerford since banning those weapons.
Dunblaine
1996 - 15 injured 18 dead.Hungerford
1987 - 15 injured 17 deadNothing since 1996 on that scale? You sure? Did you read anything? 2 June 2010
Cumbria, England 13 dead 11 injured.Forget that the original firearms act of Britain was set in 1968. So it all happened while guns were banned... everything since then has been amendments to the act (1988, 1997 were amendments). There were also other legislation in 2006 (so before 2010 mass shooting), 2012, and 2019.
But please carry on with your denial Talk about denial... You're denying your own laws/history... Fuck me man... I can't help you.
Well done, you've managed to find the three worst crimes of the last 50 years. About a week's worth of deaths in America. Do you think you're proving your point by highlighting how rare mass shootings are in the UK?
Can you join the dots now and see that when gun ownership is restricted there are far fewer shootings?
America's fucked, there's more guns than people, there's no way back, just thoughts and prayers and fear.
Well done, you’ve managed to find the three worst crimes of the last 50 years.
Dude... are you capable of following a conversation? YOU posted the first 2... and said there's been nothing since then. I showed you one other that was after that is the same scale.
If you can't even follow your own conversation you truly are hopeless.
Can you join the dots now and see that when gun ownership is restricted there are far fewer shootings?
Doesn't matter. UK proved that you can't stop all gun related deaths. And even accounting for that UK overall homicide rate hasn't decreased any faster than any other "western" country INCLUDING the USA.
America’s fucked, there’s more guns than people, there’s no way back, just thoughts and prayers and fear.
No fear here. Just idiot who project it from overseas it seems.
Doesn't matter. UK proved that you can't stop all gun related deaths.
So it's all or nothing? 🤡
1/620
0.16%
Even accounting for population it's still blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that guns = shooting
And the US knife killing rate is still higher than the US. Just a bit more murdery I suppose. But then us Europeans shipped all the religious nutters out to the US for a reason
Dude for the love of whoever you believe in... if you're gonna pull information out of your ass to prove a point, at least bring in a source, and don't forget to include not only murder rate, but also the definition of mass shootings and how it changed.
Says the fuckwit who just spewed this:
Mass shootings happen everywhere. Most mass shootings happen with illegal firearms, and finally, tons of saves happen because good people own firearms.
I have friends who saved their own lives in a robbery attempt against armed criminals. So excuse me for thinking I should only have more guns if possible. Your opinion on this matter means nothing to me as long as my family is safe.
I do hope you face exactly what they faced, but without guns. Maybe when your wife or sister gets raped in front of you, you'll learn why sticking a gun up your butt is a good idea.
I never met anyone carrying a gun who wasn't a cop or a licensed hunter over here in europe and it's great.
The horrorfreakshow in your head must be a huge burden
Cool story, crypto-bro. Lemme guess, you fancy yourself a real "alpha-male" too, right?
I do hope you face exactly what they faced, but without guns. Maybe when your wife or sister gets raped in front of you, you’ll learn why sticking a gun up your butt is a good idea.
Mm k there psycho, I hope violence befalls you and yours as well.
Yep, I'm a psycho I guess... because I know that bad people exist... lol.
Ohhh and so witty, too! Ladies, watch out, this one's the whole package!
UK has had 3 mass shootings in the 2020s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2020s_mass_shootings_in_the_United_Kingdom
US had 620 just in 2020 alone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2020
Fulfill my conditions. Tell me the definition of a mass shooting, and whether it changed.
And don't forget to account for MURDERS in the UK. Not only shootings.
Don't hurt your back carrying that goalpost, you might have to start accepting that you're wrong if you can't move it around anymore!
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
If you're going to compare gun related homicides, the US has more than 20x as many as the UK (in 2017 and 2015 respectively)
How about we compare homicide and see how much that helped?
I'm not sure what you mean, but if you're trying to say that if we include all homicides that the US would somehow have less murders overall...
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country
The US has more than 4x as many homicides overall with almost 90% of those being gun related. US could save a lot of people if they weren't so intent on their little murder toys.
He said without bringing in a single source
I guess drugs never pour out from Mexico either.
Why try to change the subject?
He has to. I made sure to include a source he probably agrees with: Fox News
And they deleted their comments
It's not changing the subject. It's about smuggling illegal stuff. What makes you think that smuggling guns is impossible while drugs are being smuggled?
No, it's about guns specifically.
Depends what you're trying to achieve. There's absolutely no evidence that banning guns will change murders, especially that most murders don't happen with guns in the first place.
If Americans weren’t buying them, they wouldn’t be coming here.
The same concept applies for illegal immigrants, too. If republicans weren’t hiring them, they wouldn’t be crossing the border.
I may or may not know where to get illegal firearms, but would've done something very drastic ages ago already if I could simply go get a gun within 3 days legally.
Your fantasies don't really count in this conversation.
No because I can't get a gun in a grocery store within 3 days.
Oh, no. That means it's impossible to get a gun. Case closed.
Only because the friends that would get me to an illegal one know my mental health well enough to not give it to me. No grocery store background check would find any of that.
Oh, no, again... That means, again, it's impossible to get a gun. Case closed... again. lol.
Nice try trying to pull a website out of your butt. Next time try official statistics.
What's funny is that when you talk about illegal firearms in other countries, they must likely came from the USA (or in Canada's case, they definitely came from there).
Thank you for your opinion. Now step aside and let the big boys talk.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/in-fighting-gun-crime-canada-has-an-american-problem-1.6004198
https://globalnews.ca/news/8845131/ontario-crime-guns-new-data-top-us-source-states/
And it goes on and on.
Now go sit in the corner and let the adults talk, big boy.
You see, you're disingenuous. "Canada" alone isn't "other countries". But then you bring data to prove half the truth. Good for you. Your political agenda made you a liar.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/world/europe/handguns-smuggling-murder-us-uk.html
So far you don't seem to be too good at providing sources yourself...
Why argue and say stupid things when there are statistics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate?wprov=sfla1
Looks like gun violence isn't in fact happening everywhere.
America has had 562 mass shootings this year..