Do e-cigarettes actually work?
Do e-cigarettes actually work?
I have a friend who has been using an e-cigarette for 10+ years. He doesn't seem any less addicted to smoking as back when he was using old-fashioned cigarettes.
I understand e-cigarettes are supposed to help you quit... but has anyone actually had success with them? Or, is it more like trading one vice for another?
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He's not smoking.
Pure nicotine is about as harmful as caffeine. Some people will want to quit it altogether, others find it useful. It's all good.
According to my cardiologist, nicotine is the part of cigarette smoke that has a detrimental effect on the heart and arteries. Way more harmful than caffeine.
Make him give you the evidence. Here's a systematic review of nicotine side effects and heres the RCP report on vaping.
Physicians who spread fear about vaping are killing people. They should go back to medical school and pay more attention in their epidemiology classes.
Physicians who spread fear about vaping are killing people.
A major point of that article is that the
health draftsdeaths from vaping in the US are caused by substances that are banned from the UK. So maybe doctors in the UK might be spreading false info, but it sounds like doctors in the US might have a point!That's not true at all. There was one US cannabis outlet using vitamin E acetate as a diluent in error. It's lethal when heated and not a standard component of any e-cigarette anywhere at all.
It may not be true at all, but it's in the source that you posted.
It may not be true at all, but it's in the source that you posted.
The amount of research on vaping and indeed, the legal and qualitative regulatory controls are both lacking and inconsistent. Additionally, there have been an increased number of reports from various epidemiological organizations attesting to an increase number of collapsed lung cases associated with vaping. Trusted $cience.
Link your evidence and I will critique it. I can't do anything with this hand-wavey nonsense.
There's a lot of really terrible anti-vaping research out there (as there is in any field). Like the one that claimed vapers were more likely to have heart attacks which was withdrawn after reviewers and editors demanded they state which happened first, the vaping or the heart attack.
It is a difficult area to study, no doubt. If you're relying on observational studies which show an association but cannot determine whether there is a causal arrow, or even which direction it points in, you need to be very careful about how you interpret it. You can't rely on the authors or the headlines. Pub Peer is often a useful first port of call to find any concerns raised, a citation search is also useful.
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If you don't care enough to have compiled the evidence, how can you justify expressing a strongly held opinion on a public forum? Just spew out any old bullshit headline as long as it confirms your prejudices? Regardless of how many millions of lives are on the line?
That's not good enough. If you make a serious claim, back it up with your sources, or just don't do it.
I'm comfortable enough resting on my knowledge and skillsets to speak to the matter. But then, if you can't recognize that your "scientific" approach here is eerily similar to those who were trying to con people into believing smoking was healthy, then you yourself are ignorant of the history of the both the literature and the research. I recognize those same talking points because I saw the same ones in 1960s "research studies" that were promoting the potential the health and lifestyle benefits of smoking. You are fooling yourself.
Your "knowledge and skillsets" mean absolutely nothing if you are not prepared to share your sources. "Trust me" does not cut it.
I'm a medical statistician and part of my job is teaching medics how to navigate the literature. You'll be delighted to know that there's always a massive chunk on Doll & Hill and the methods which arose from the fight to prove that smoking was killing people. Do not try to patronise me. If you cannot be bothered to write up why you think something is true, do not claim that it is true.
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I'm sorry you went through that but a temporal link is not causal evidence. There are millions of people convinced MMR vaccine caused their child's autism too, but it did not.
Australia does have an extremely wrong-headed approach to vaping. It will kill millions.
"I farted and then it started raining. I'm 100% sure my fart made it rain".
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What the fuck are you on about.
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The research on nicotine is varied, and usually co-sponsored by reputable $cientific research groups. A broad spectrum view seems to suggest that it is not nicotine itself that is particularly detrimental but the carcinogens involved in its release.