French state schools turn away dozens of girls wearing Muslim abaya dress
French state schools turn away dozens of girls wearing Muslim abaya dress
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Dozens of girls are sent home after turning up at school wearing the now-banned abaya robe.
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French state schools turn away dozens of girls wearing Muslim abaya dress
Dozens of girls are sent home after turning up at school wearing the now-banned abaya robe.
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Okay, let's look at several arguments that have been presented here in favor of this law:
Individuals who say this seem to have what is known as the "conventionalist" ethical framework. This framework has maaany problems. However, even if we look at this law from the point of view of this framework, it becomes unethical. The official national motto of France is "Liberty, Equality and Fraternity". This law seems to contradict all three of these principles.
It contradicts "liberty", as it literally permits the government to tell its citizens what they can and cannot wear on their body. Abayas are not even inherently religious. It is like the government banning polo t-shirts because they are "Christian".
The law contradicts "equality" as it unequally affects Muslims and Sikhs, as their religious expression involves the use of clothing more than other religions. Sure, harmful clothing must not be permitted (like the knives that Sikhs are supposed to carry according to their religion). Abayas are not harmful in any way. Hence, they do not fall into this category.
Finally, this law contradicts "fraternity", as fraternity literally means "brotherhood" in this context. "No matter how different we are, we are still brothers with a goal to work for the people of France" is what this implies. Banning something as harmless as clothing attributed to a given religion is not a sign of brotherhood.
I'm atheist and socialist. I'm sad to see some of my fellow socialists arguing for the ban as well. Atheists have and are presently being persecuted in many countries in the world. By supporting the persecution of other religious classifications, we are essentially doing exactly what is being done to us. There is no moral difference between us and the individuals persecuting us in this case.
Ehh... Doesn't prove this by any means. For example, a type of clothing called a "kurta" is worn by Hindus and Muslims both. In religious ceremonies in both religions, attendees usually wear it. Now, this doesn't mean that the garment suddenly is a religious garment, does it? It just is a cultural garment that is usually worn in the Indian subcontinent.
Now, even if the abaya is a religious garment, the points that I mentioned above still apply. What if I started a new religion called "Religion of yellow clothes"? Let's say my religious clothes are all yellow clothes. Does France ban everyone from wearing yellow clothes now because of me?
Sir, you just said kurta is being weared during religious ceremonies.. It's hard argue that it is not a religious dress..
Well if that yellow thing becomes widely acknowledged as a "religious display" then yes, it will be banned in public schools.. It does sound dumb but only because you made an extravagant decision to make "yellow" a religious sign. If you claimed "let's have a crossed bar" as religious sign, suddenly it becomes easier to imagine