FBI arrests judge in escalation of Trump immigration enforcement effort

I think you guys are going to sit and boil.

If you ask me, things should have started burning a few months ago.

Unfortunately, this is a exactly what Trump wants. He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections. All of this is calculated.
- He wants riots and chaos so he can declare martial law and gain even more power and possibly delay or even cancel elections.
  And the alternative is sit and let ICE blackbag innocents?
  The US has the 2nd amendment, which they love so much. ICE should be getting gunned down in the street by this point.
  
  This is how you guarantee trump’s third term.
  
  It's already happening. America can passively accept their country is gone, or they can fight to try and save it.
  
  And the minute they begin to fight, Trump locks it all down and America enters into a martial law that I guarantee won’t end before his third term.
  If there’s an uprising- it’ll have to be all-or-nothing- and that nothing will come at a heavy cost.
  I really hope people know this is exactly what he wants. You’re being baited into giving him everything he needs.
  
  Ok so what, work within the system? The clearly ineffectual system which isn't working?
  
  I didn’t say that either.
  
  Man, y'all people think we don't know what "implying" something is or what "reaching a natural conclusion" is. Going "oh well that's not what I said" isn't a gotcha. I swear reading comprehension is at an all time low if you think everything has to be said directly.
  So ok, I'll bite, what's your glorious solution? What should we do oh wise one?
  
  Well, considering that a Time Machine is out of the question, and the military- who happens to be capable of using satellites in space to turn every single one of you into a pink mist without even scratching the paint on your neighbors car- is not on your side, I’d say your only option is through diplomacy.
  Because face it- America fucked up.
  This was all avoidable back in November. There was the chance to overcome this problem- no… to avoid it all-together. But too many chose not to. They chose to make a statement. And now, sadly- everyone suffers for it. That’s it. The end.
  If it helps- let’s look at it this way:
  Let’s say you committed a crime¹. You are caught, and have been found guilty² Your penance, is prison³. Now, while in prison, you can plan to escape⁴, but you know that won’t work, it’s impossible, and if it were, it would only be so for someone smart enough to pull it off. That you commuted the crime and got caught, illustrates that you are not.
  You’re not getting out. Plain and simple.
  Now optionally, you can just sit there and stew in the colossal failure that caused you to be in there to begin with and work towards learning from your mistakes so that if/when you are released, you can do better⁵- or you can work with your lawyer(s) on your options to have your sentence overturned⁶.
  Those are your options.
  In this scenario:
  • ¹ - didn’t vote against Trump
  \ • ² - Trump gets elected
  \ • ³ - Trump’s term
  \ • ⁴ - Proposed armed uprising attempt
  \ • ⁵ - Pay attention and be an informed voter
  \ • ⁶ - Be active in local politics. Help in any way you are able to help move the states motions to impeach when the time comes. Work with local groups to petition state reps to act on his crimes.
  It’s this or nothing.
  Because if you think you have the organization, tactical knowledge, technical functionality, manpower, and arms to overcome the most powerful military on the planet, I would say go right ahead and try-
  But know that in doing so- you’re gong to get a LOT of innocent people killed. It’ll be a fucking bloodbath.
  And in the end, whoever remains- gets trump for life.
  Lastly, do not mistake my suggesting that nothing can be done as a willingness to do nothing about it. Some people sit in prison, knowing they fucked up. They’re not giving in. They’re just quietly having the balls it takes to know they royally fucked it, and working towards understanding how they can avoid a repeat scenario.
  Being a realist is not a weakness. Not is it being compliant. It’s simply accepting a circumstance that is out of one’s control.
  And for the record, peaceful protest is provenly more effective than violence. Reference:
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  You're right. It's better to just hide in your homes and hope for the best. Don't want to play into his hands.
  
  I love how people can’t debate without writing lines for their opponent. It has the added benefit of making it easier to just tag them as a waste of time.
  If you want to discuss this, I get to say my part in this- not you.
- I dunno about that. This was more or less Chuck Schumers approach to passing his agenda. If you fight him it's going to get worse, so don't fight? I feel foreign nationals shouldn't be leading the charge because of their vulnerability, but for full-fledged us born citizens following the law with their rebuke, surely many would martyr themselves for a historical rally against fascism knowing the ACLU would defend them.
  
  Oh we should absolutely be fighting but not with guns. We should be fighting with the law and protests. We should be confronting these fuckers at every junction. But the moment we pick up a gun or a rock or some other violent means we just give them the excuse to escalate the fascism.
- If I'm not mistaken, a full national declaration of martial law would require not only approval of individual state legislatures, but also the loyalty of the military and the National Guard in every state.
  By bypassing laws and regulations, totally disregarding checks and balances now that mechanism is compromised, the bastard need not to declare martial law to spread terror.
I think you’re 100% correct.

I blame the "fuck you got mine" mentality that's become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren't equipped for that.

Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”
- I feel it started before and it was like that before covid. I'm gen Z and I remember around 2017 the rise of popularity of songs about "me me me being the #1 gang banger the gangster, them bitches love me, them ni**as hating" among the people in my age group, and it sorta just grew from there.
  What I noticed during covid and once TikTok style videos became mainstream was sort of a "normalization" or acceptance of the phenomena mentioned above.
  Remember Wall-E were everyone in the future is a fat individualistic human being, connected to a bed on wheels with a screen and everyone seems to be doing their own thing with no resemblance of families, couples, friends, goals?
  
  Agreed I’m 42 and personally growing up in the late 80s and 90s I feel like Regan and Rush Limbaugh were both a big influence on the situation the country is in now. And honestly, you can go back to Nixon and JFK getting assassinated as the main focal point from when America stopped being America and became more conservative and for the money and for the wealthy.

Kinda hard when only 55% of people disapprove of your king.

Allegedly, it only takes 3.5% of a population to enact change through nonviolent protests. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world
Maybe give that an honest try first? Hard to unring a bell.

Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Americans won't do shit. The tech oligarchy and the facists have the population exactly where they want them to be, struggling and unable to take actions.

Struggling economically and doom scrolling from the moment they wake up, until they go to bed.

when the fuck do we rise up?

As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?

Never.

And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.

From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.

This was avoidable.

And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?

I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.