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Giving money to economic refugees that aren’t self sufficient is just… at best, turning them into baby factories for next generation worker bees.
I don't see why that's the case. Surely within a few years at most, they will have acquired the skills and security to get a job or start a business and become a productive taxpayer. Unless they're permanently disabled, but that's a small minority of people.
- The problem usually is lack of education within their home countries. That's the difference between EU migrants and non EU migrants. I suppose.
  Someone that went to school until age 14 won't have it as easy to integrate. Mostly they'll get minimum wage jobs. Which don't pay taxes.
  That's why they do bad on statistics I guess.
  But nowadays, places around the world have been booming education wise. Now it's pure brain drain to get young abled people to come here.
  The statistics are more based on older generations, which globally, were less educated.
  
  I'm pretty confident that even a person with no formal education can gain the training to do a skilled trade job.
  
  Difficult.
  https://www.nbb.be/nl/artikels/de-economische-impact-van-immigratie-belgie-0
  The difference between first generation immigrants and locals/2nd generation is staggering.
  
  Which is why I suggest more training and schooling for first-generation immigrants. Instead of leaving them to develop the skills on their own, proactively teach those skills to jumpstart their earning years.
  From your linked study:
  While our analysis shows an increase in the declared portion for the second-generation immigrants, it does not mean that the gap with natives is justified. Although the lower level of education of second-generation immigrants explains a greater part of their differences in labor market integration, they do not have the same level of education opportunities. This was explicitly raised by Danhier and Jacobs (2017), who argue that, of all OECD countries, Belgium maintains the lowest level of equality in origin in its school system and sets a high level of segregation based on school performance.
  
  The part of the source you're quoting is about 2nd generation, not first generation.
  We do set a high level of segregation based on school performance. But they all have education.
  I'd take this with a grain of salt. We have labour, technical and general. They each have their pros and cons. I don't really like the way they choose who to put where. They put me in technical, after a few years I chose to go to general.
  Kinda a mistake, technical had better teaching than general. Perhaps just the school, but with technical it felt like the education was just of a higher quality. While it's ranked lower than general based on people stereotyping it.
  We definitely need to get away from that kind of thing. Streamline it. All kids in the same segment and let them choose themselves what they want at age 14 instead of being chosen for at age 12.
  My source says that second generation immigrants outperform native population. Simply because they have to catch up on the ladder. They see how their parents struggle. How their family struggle. They want to make the best of it.
  So then they simply put in more effort. Perhaps will develope a bit of an unhealthy relationship with money but whatever.
  
  My point was that if greater access to education and training opportunities lowers the gap for second generation immigrants, surely that also applies to first generation.
  
  They all have access to education. My wife can go follow a master in European and international law in the university of Antwerp right now if she wishes to do it. It's in English.
  She can follow baking classes. Pretty much anything. Since she arrived here with a bachelor's degree already.
  The older generation that came here without formal education. They didn't speak English. All the effort invested in them was just to teach them Dutch. There's training at vdab for jobs that are easy to get. But these jobs don't pay that much.
  Our economy is based on human capital. We are quite competitive on this. So to compete with natives for jobs, you need to be educated from a young age.
  That's just a reality. The best paying jobs that immigrants that can't speak the language would get would be construction.
  
  All the effort invested in them was just to teach them Dutch. There’s training at vdab for jobs that are easy to get. But these jobs don’t pay that much.
  So teach them better job skills.
  
  How? How are you going to teach someone to be an engineer when the person can barely read?
  
  Gradually.

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