D.epartment O.f G.overnment E.nshitification
D.epartment O.f G.overnment E.nshitification
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The richest man on earth who receives tens of billions in taxpayer money, government incentives, and tax breaks to build cars and blow up rockets over the Caribbean. He is a fucking parasite setting our/NASA money on fire. (In addition to straight up getting money from government he also gets money routed through NASA contracts)
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They constantly accuse others of corruption, pedophilia, and other awful things and are utterly convinced they're right. They're convinced, because the people they surround themselves with are filled with corrupt, awful, pedophiles, so that means EVERYONE must secretly be a corrupt, awful, pedophile. After all, if that WASN'T the case, that would mean they aligned themselves with, or are themselves, inhuman monsters; and no one is the villain of their own story. That's why when they accuse people of such heinous things, they aren't lying, they 100% believe what they're saying. Because if they didn't, that would be admitting to themselves what evil pieces of shit they actually are.
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I think it's sub-conscious self-hatred projected onto others. They are fractured, damaged people, that, from an early age were told that their vulnerabilities were weaknesses. Their inability to accept themselves as they are causes them to wreak havoc on the world searching for enough tangible reasons (power, fame, money) so that they finally can. But it's never enough, because no amount of outer wealth will fill the void of inner poverty.
tldr: these people hate themselves
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If my disabled ass can ever get the energy and motivation to go to a protest I want to have a sign that compares what I receive in a year with SSDI, Medicaid, and HUD housing to what just Elon receives in federal money for his businesses. Now who's the parasite?
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Hey, all of you. Stop feeding trolls. They are propagating the truly dystopian lie that the US is actually accomplishing a real energy transition, with or without Musk.
"Cleanest energy economy in the world" (JD Vance, 2024 VP debate, gaslighting the public into thinking Republicans haven't successfully held us back from clean energy at every possible turn.)
It's a russian muskbot or unwilling stooge. The brief account history is literally full of republican and russian defense. Don't let them fill lemmy with stupid arguments. It distracts from the real conversations.
Downvote, and either ignore entirely, or if needed talk around the troll to everyone else listening.
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Boy, you better stretch those cheeks further apart and get that tongue up in there. There's a lot more kissass that Elon deserves and I'm not hearing!
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I can acknowledge a person’s achievement even though I do not agree with their recent political stances. Maybe that makes me very different than you who only think good or bad?
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“You know, when I think about it… I guess there’s some good things this tyrant did. He’s still a tyrant, but there are some good things he took credit for that he did.”
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I was doing to make a "Elon is an animal lover", but that's not true. Goddamn, he doesn't even live up to Hitler.
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Yes, the world is not black and white, there are many shades of grey.
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Ok, you grasp the concept of shades of gray. That's a good start,but do you understand how the proportion of each shade matters?
If a person helps out an old lady with correct directions towards the city center, only to grab her purse and run when they finish can we say "they've done some good things"? Should the helpful directions even have any weight in our judgement of them?
If a person grows Tesla and SpaceX only to get enough power to steal from and turn several countries towards fascism, do the good things even matter, considering their actual end goal?
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He truly has never achieved anything. He has purchased, attached himself to, and leeched things, but never "achieved" something the way a normal person does.
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stranded astronauts from the ISS
The Facts Behind the Delayed Return of U.S. Astronauts
In response to Musk’s claims, several astronauts took to X to refute the idea that the astronauts were purposefully abandoned. Andreas Mogensen, a former SpaceX astronaut from Denmark, posted: “What a lie. And from someone who complains about lack of honesty from the mainstream media.” In response to Mogensen, Elon replied: “You are fully rеtarded. SpaceX could have brought them back several months ago. I OFFERED THIS DIRECTLY to the Biden administration and they refused. Return WAS pushed back for political reasons. Idiot.”
Mogensen responded by stating, “Elon, I have long admired you and what you have accomplished, especially at SpaceX and Tesla. You know as well as I do, that Butch and Suni are returning with Crew-9, as has been the plan since last September. Even now, you are not sending up a rescue ship to bring them home. They are returning on the Dragon capsule that has been on ISS since last September.”
Steve Stich, the program manager for NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, said after the determination was made that Williams and Wilmore should not return on the Boeing Starliner, NASA officials met with SpaceX officials and considered “a wide range of options” and ultimately decided to attach the astronauts to the previously scheduled Crew-9 mission.
“When we looked at the situation at the time, we had a Crew-9 launch in front of us, it made sense to take the opportunity to bring Crew-9 up with just two seats and have Butch and Suni fill in and do the rest of the long duration mission,” said Dana Weigel, manager of NASA’s International Space Station Program.
“We thought the plan that we came up with made a lot of sense, and that, especially for Butch and Suni we know they’re experienced astronauts, they’re great in space,” Bowersox said. “We knew they’d be great additions to the crew and we knew that for most astronauts, spending extra time on orbit’s really a gift. And we thought they’d probably enjoy their time there. So we thought it was a good way to go … for a lot of reasons.”
see also: NASA astronauts — from space — discredit Trump claims they’re stranded
@alkbch@lemmy.ml is any of the above news to you, or were you aware of this already when you posted your "stranded astronauts from the ISS" comments?
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Yes, I am aware of the situation. The astronauts were stranded. Full stop. Whatever Musk may or may not have proposed when Biden was president is irrelevant to my statement.
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So facts don't matter to you. Got it.
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The fact is they were stranded. They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.
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The fact is they were stranded.
The astronauts said "we don't feel abandoned, we don't feel stuck, we don't feel stranded", because they were prepared for this contingency. And they object to this nonsense framing too: "Help us change the rhetoric, help us change the narrative. Let’s change it to ‘prepared and committed."
They couldn’t go back to Earth when initially planned, nor at any time before the following mission ended.
You are simply mistaken. At all times there were multiple options available for them to go back early if it ever became necessary to.
Changing the planned duration of a mission is not the same as being "stranded".
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Yes they could go back to Earth in case of an emergency and would have to take the other passengers with them prior to the end of their missions. They couldn’t not return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back.
It’s great they didn’t feel stranded though, makes it less unpleasant to pass time while being stranded there.
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They were not "passing the time" (more than people on ISS always are... 🤡).
The decision was made in August that they would join the Expedition 71/72 crew.
As a result, Stephanie Wilson and Zena Cardman did not get to fly on Crew-9.
Yes they could go back to Earth in case of an emergency and would have to take the other passengers with them prior to the end of their missions.
It would have been prior to the end of their own missions as well, since they became members of Expedition 72.
They couldn’t not return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back.
Do you think astronauts ever go to space with the expectation that they can "return to Earth simply because they decided they wanted to go back"? 😂
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Facts don’t matter to this one folks!
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How does that boot polish taste?
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How does it feel to live a life full of hatred?
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1 month old account. Over 430 posts. Seemingly all of them simping hard for Elon Musk.
What's most terrifying is that they're probably not even a paid shill. Chances are they're either a troll or equally likely - cognitively captured, like millions of others, spewing repeatedly debunked falsehoods at every corner in a perpetual show of one-upmanship. And ultimately - trapped in a vicious circle of lies.
This is the world they are building. This is the lobotomized reality that awaits all of us if we don't figure out a way to build a sustainable, high-quality information environment.
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You have some severe lack of reading comprehension if you assert that all my posts are dumping hard for Elon Musk. It’s ironic that you go on to insult me after that, instead of you know… discussing the facts of the matter.
People like you are actually not interested in discussing the facts because you take everyone who doesn’t share your opinion from very high, are incapable of examining your own opinions and just resort to name calling.
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Our opinion is that we hate nazis and that you like them. Do you like nazis is the question you should be asking yourself.
You are the person that says, "Hitler wasn't that bad. He did a lot of good, like building the autobahn."
This is you.
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I do not like Nazis.
Yeah Hitler did some good things. Biden also did some good things despite funding and aiding a genocide.
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Where were you when the US terrorized the global south? When Coca-Cola sent death squads to kill union leaders? How about united fruit? Chile and Sept 11 1972? The school of the America's. Iran 1959, Iraq 2002, Afghanistan same.
Your outrage is definitely warranted because genocide is horrible, but your country has been doing genocide/destroying democratically elected governments for almost 100 years.
And now you guys have voted in fascists and now the world has no peace because of it. You are directly responsible if you didn't vote or voted for Donald.
Global fascism or genocide in Gaza? Very hard choice.
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It fucking sucks, you're right. But if you don't hate Musk you're a traitor.
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You might benefit from doing some meditation and yoga.
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Are you bringing back stranded astronauts from the ISS?
Is Elon?
Did you lead several highly successful companies that played a major role in helping with the energy transition when virtually no others were doing it at this scale?
Did Elon? He knows how to market himself, and to pick competent employees. But is he leading and playing a major role, or is that just hype?
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Yes to all questions.
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Can you back up that opinion with facts?
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Elon’s company SpaceX has brought back the two stranded astronauts from the ISS just a week or two ago, easy to find news articles about this.
Elon has founded SpaceX and lead it to the success it has today. It has also bought Tesla at a very early stage and lead it to the company it is today. Part of these successes is hiring the right people, taking risks and investing ungodly amounts of money when nobody else dared to. His wife even left him because he invested nearly all of the money from the PayPal IPO payout.
Having said all of that, there is definitely some hype around Tesla as its valuation in the stock market is not objectively rational, it’s more of a meme stock at this point; but that doesn’t change fact that it is one of the US companies that did the most to encourage the adoption of electric vehicles in the US.
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Elon’s company SpaceX
But not Elon specifically.
Elon has founded SpaceX and lead it to the success it has today
He founded spaceX but the success is down to the rocket scientists.
Part of these successes is hiring the right people, taking risks and investing ungodly amounts of money when nobody else dared to.
Agreed. Spotting talent and being lucky (risk taking + positive outcomes) are his defining qualities.
Not leadership. Not personally flying or building rockets. Not caring about energy transition. You don't solve climate change by going to Mars.
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The success is down to the team, not the rocket scientist alone. Guess who gathered, motivated and paid the team?
One doesn’t create several companies that are leader in the energy transition if they do not care about energy transition.
I understand all the hate Elon Musk is getting currently but pretending he did not lead several companies to great success is just bizarre.
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The success is down to the team, not the rocket scientist alone.
A minute ago you were saying that Elon personally flew astronauts back from the ISS. Now it's all about the team.
Guess who gathered, motivated and paid the team?
Not arguing about this part.
One doesn’t create several companies that are leader in the energy transition if they do not care about energy transition.
One doesn't try to get to Mars if one cares about Earth. Tesla is not environmentally optimised. Green Elon was just marketing.
I understand all the hate Elon Musk is getting currently but pretending he did not lead several companies to great success is just bizarre.
Lead is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Funded is a better verb. No other CEO has time to lead and tweet 70x a day.
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His wife even left him because he invested nearly all of the money from the PayPal IPO payout.
No, he was the one who filed for divorce, to propose to a woman 13 years younger than his first wife (he at 37 wanted to trade his 36 year old wife for a 23 year old wife). From papers served to his then-current wife to having a 23 year old fiancee was about 6 weeks.
Generally speaking, Musk's business success is marked by being in the right place and the right time with someone else making the actual substantive calls about exactly how the business is run. When he gets opinionated and have businesses yield to his specific desires, it tends to produce bad results.
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Yes you are right, he is the one who filed for divorce however his wife acknowledged he invested much of his money into his ventures, particularly Tesla and SpaceX, during financially challenging times; which lead to tensions in the family.
That’s perfectly understandable btw, I wouldn’t be happy if my spouse invested most of the family wealth into risky ventures too.
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No one could convince me a bot didn't write that.
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Do tankies suddenly like Musk? How is your .ml account not banned for supporting the most bourgeois man on earth? They ban people for saying trust Russia sucks and not this drivel?
Read some real journalism for a change Musk didn't do shit. He didn't start PayPal, he didn't start Tesla, spaceX has a whole layer of management DEDICATED to keeping him out of screwing anything up, and I don't think I need to add anything about X.
I never thought anyone could be so blatantly wrong on every topic, but .ml account keep teaching me lessons on the topic.
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I am relatively new to Lemmy and don’t know much about the different instances leaning.
I do not support Musk. I am well aware of his businesses endeavors and I merely acknowledge his positive impact as much as his negative one.
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Keep on bootlicking, you may wake up as a billionaire
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Keep on hating.
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I don't hate you, I just despise you.
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You have worse problems at hand, for instance sucking up to billionaires
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He's never going to touch your PP.
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I sure hope he doesn’t!
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Playing the reverse psychology game, aye?
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Dude I just happened to be curious and scroll through your profile and comments. Woof. Good luck to you sir. Your opinions have you setup like Doom Guy in the 90s cover art.
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Sorry, I don’t understand the analogy. Thank you for your wishes though, we all need some luck.
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He might offer you a horse in return, though.
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What would I do with a horse LOL
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Dunno, your decision. The last person he offered one to after sexually harassing her didn't take it either. Horses are expensive to look after, and all that.
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Yes, they are. If I had a big farm and enough resources I’d welcome the horse, but unfortunately I can’t currently provide good living conditions for a horse.
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Are you a heartless monster unable of empathy, who never realised other people might be people, too?
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Don't feed the trolls
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It's funny because feeding the troll only works if there's an algorithm. We don't have that here.
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Why don’t you ask this question to the commenter above who is calling other people parasites?
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He said leon, the richest man on earth, called the poor parasites. And he believes that. Anything we get, food, a new phone, a nice day at the beach. We are taking them from him. He believes life is a zero sum game. I have so much empathy that I pity him.
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He called him a parasite too.
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convenient to just dismiss people who have an opinion different than yours as bots…
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I hope Melon Husk at least pays you.
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As usual people like you go straight to character attacks.
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I don’t expect anything better coming from people like you. Your life seems filled with hatred, I hope you find inner peace.
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Bad bot
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Elon is evil and rotten to his core.
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Sir, you spelled Felon Musk wrong.
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Please stop with the childish name calling.
If you want to make Musk look bad, just point out the many illegal things he's doing.
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I'm not above name calling so long as it is at the expense of the guy who decided to collude with russia to disable starlink access to ukraine in an active war.
Felon Musk will absolutely hate the term, so it's perfect.
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Elon Musk will never see any of your comments, and neither knows nor cares you exist.
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