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Mozilla Introducing 'Terms of Use' to Firefox

From the new terms:

When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

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  • Firefox "never has and never will" sell your personal data was removed.

    https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e

    It was moved here, but there is no never will: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/faq

    It seems like every company on the web is buying and selling my data. You’re probably no different.

    Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you, and we don’t buy data about you.

    • Never trust them, they're still lying on their FAQ

      Data collection still bugs me. Can I turn it off?

      Yes. User control is one of our data privacy principles. We put that into practice in Firefox on our privacy settings page, which serves as a one-stop shop for anyone looking to take control of their privacy in Firefox. You can turn off data collection there.

      You can't just turn off data collection by opt-out through this option :-/

    • Mozilla doesn’t sell data about you (in the way that most people think about “selling data“)

      It's killing me x)

    • Search for firefox-tou.
      The presence of that now magically removes mentions of privacy and not selling user-data in multiple places.

       diff
          
      -    <p>
      -        Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.
      -    </p>
      
      +    {% if switch('firefox-tou') %}
      +      <p>Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.</p>
      +    {% else %}
      +      <p>Firefox is independent and a part of the not-for-profit Mozilla, which fights for your online rights, keeps corporate powers in check and makes the internet accessible to everyone, everywhere. We believe the internet is for people, not profit. Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data. You’re in control over who sees your search and browsing history. All that and exceptional performance too.</p>
      +    {% endif %}
      
      
        

      Difference here is Unlike other companies, we don’t sell access to your data.

       diff
          
      -    <h2 class="c-section-title">The best privacy</h2>
      +    {% if switch('firefox-tou') %}
      +      <h2 class="c-section-title">Always protected</h2>
      +    {% else %}
      +      <h2 class="c-section-title">The best privacy</h2>
      +    {% endif %}
      
      
        

      Pivoting from privacy to security in the tos.

       
          
      -      <li>
      -        <h2>{{ ftl('does-firefox-sell') }}</h2>
      -        <p>{{ ftl('nope-never-have', url=url('privacy')) }}</p>
      -      </li>
      +      {% if not switch('firefox-tou') %}
      +        <li>
      +          <h2>{{ ftl('does-firefox-sell') }}</h2>
      +          <p>{{ ftl('nope-never-have', url=url('privacy')) }}</p>
      +        </li>
      +      {% endif %}
      
      
        

      As you mentioned they will apparently sell your data under tos.

      Where does the tos apply and where the mpl now?
      They would have removed all those mentions of privacy entirely if the mpl had no use anymore, wouldn't they?

    • I can't wait for ladybird, firefox is going downhill because of the Mozilla Foundation

    • It felt so weird to upvote this. Thanks for pointing that out, but also uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhh

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