Yes, Ukraine Started the War
Donald Trump has been flayed alive by Western media and leaders for saying Ukraine started the war. Here are facts, not myths, says Joe Lauria. By Joe Lauria Special to Consortium News The outcry spread quickly across the Western world: Donald Trump dared say Ukraine started the war.
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Here's what you need to know- consortium news in 2016, the website was listed by PropOrNot as a "Russian propaganda outlet," a claim Consortium News strongly disputes, arguing it challenges mainstream narratives and exposes bias in media.
Article really is totally bias towards Russia and leaves out many well documented facts or any facts that would take away from the Russian narrative that Russian is the victim.
Interesting to read for the sole fact it gives you insight into what the Russian propaganda machine is pumping out.
Fact checking sites aren't reliable. Consortium News is run and was founded by world-class investigative journalists who won Pulitzer's. So I'll take them over a “fact checking” site. You must think people are stupid.
I'm not sure how anyone would read that article knowing anything about Ukraine and not immediately realize this article is biased and misleading. It is certainly bending the truth. I think only a stupid person would try and defend it.
P.S. I've personally been to Ukraine and also know people who are currently there. So I'll take my first person account over you or you're purposely misleading article.
Your anecdotal evidence doesn't mean shit. Knowing people in Ukraine doesn't refute the story.
The fact is that between February and March 2014, unmarked Russian soldiers occupied and blockaded the Simferopol International Airport, most of Ukraine's Crimean military bases, and the Supreme Council of Crimea. The Kremlin stated that no Russian troops were active in the region, but many little green men were operating in this region while disguised as pro-Russian separatists.
After two months of denial, on 17 April 2014, Russian president Vladimir Putin confirmed that the Russian military had been operating in Ukraine.
So by Putin's own account here, sending troops into Ukraine they of course started the war. All of which is conveniently left out of this article. Some great reporting here....
P.S. I’ve personally been to Ukraine and also know people who are currently there. So I’ll take my first person account over you or you’re purposely misleading article.
I bet you have! /s What part of Ukraine did you visit, East or West? And from which part of Ukraine did the person(s) you talked to come from? Context is everything. Also, you may want to brush up on some unchallengeable history—An actual timeline of events, if you wish to honestly enlighten yourself. https://consortiumnews.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-timeline-tells-the-tale
Why is it so hard to believe someone has been to Ukraine? like really? I've also been to Poland many times and have family there. Just FYI Ukraine borders Poland. Not really difficult traveling between the two. You may have never left Russia (I've been there too) but plenty of people travel to other countries this is not a rare thing. I'm sorry if you have not had the opportunity to travel but would highly recommend you do so. I think it would help you a lot.
History is history and you can't change it. Russia is the aggressor here (and in many other places, they have a pretty consistent playbook) it's not really up for debate (though I'm sure you'll continue to try).
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the website was listed by PropOrNot as a “Russian propaganda outlet,”
Who the fuck are PropOrNot, and why the fuck should I care what they say? A quick search shows that they're an anonymous website with no verifiable methodology, to the point that even western sources actively dismiss them.
But .world social fascists would accept scrawling on the side of a padded cell as gospel truth if it confirms their biases.
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Another data point for you: https://www.biasly.com/sources/consortiumnews-bias-rating/