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Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam

www.gamesradar.com Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam

"We're already preparing for the porting efforts and a potential Steam release now that we've been legally enabled to pursue that," according to one mod dev

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Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam

www.gamesradar.com /games/fps/valve-adds-all-the-team-fortress-2-client-and-server-game-code-to-its-source-mod-tools-letting-modders-build-completely-new-games-based-on-tf2-and-publish-them-on-steam/

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7d ago

Valve adds "all the Team Fortress 2 client and server game code" to its Source mod tools, letting modders "build completely new games based on TF2" and publish them on Steam

www.gamesradar.com /games/fps/valve-adds-all-the-team-fortress-2-client-and-server-game-code-to-its-source-mod-tools-letting-modders-build-completely-new-games-based-on-tf2-and-publish-them-on-steam/

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Eh, maybe I'm being pedantic, but I still don't really see how the addition of the steam marketplace is an example of the steam platform declining in quality. It was a feature that they added a long time ago, and it doesn't interfere with or worsen the experience of buying, organizing, or playing my video games. Sure it's a needless addition (in our opinions), but one that I can easily ignore because it's so isolated from the main product. Plenty of other products and services out there have features that some don't like or don't use, but that isn't the same thing as enshittification. And I feel like the spam would happen regardless of if the marketplace was there or not. That feels more like a moderation problem, not an enshittification problem.
- Sure, if you ignore the worst parts of it that I explicitly laid out and only focus on how it makes you feel personally, then I can see how you might feel that way.
  
  I'm not ignoring anything, I just don't agree that the steam marketplace, and all the stuff you're talking about related to the steam marketplace, fits either of our definitions of enshittification.
  
  Okay, I don't understand how and you haven't explained it, you've just said that you don't personally care about it, which isn't an argument I can respond to. You're free to have your opinion, but I don't see how it's relevant here.
  
  It was a feature that they added a long time ago, and it doesn't interfere with or worsen the experience of buying, organizing, or playing my video games... Plenty of other products and services out there have features that some don't like or don't use, but that isn't the same thing as enshittification.
  I have explained it though
  
  Yes, you ignored the worst parts of it in favour of things you could dismiss for yourself, and then you ignored me pointing that out. I'm not going to keep explaining this to you any further.
  
  The only one ignoring things is you. You're ignoring my whole point. Which is that your personal bar for enshittification is lower than any of the definitions we've given in this thread, because it's basically "anything I think is bad is enshittification"
  
  Your point is that the issues don't affect the core experience, and I've explained how that's wrong, and you've ignored it.
  You're also now blatantly mischaracterising what I've said.
  If you want me to keep talking to you, I need you to tell me that you are actually curious to understand what I have to say.
  
  Nah I don't really want you to keep talking to me
  
  In future you can just say that rather than talking in circles and making no sense. Goodbye.

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