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It's Time to Take Threats About Becoming the 51st State Seriously

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If somebody cracks jokes about your sovereignty believe them.
Putin started by saying Ukraine is not a real country...
- So while I agree with you and I think we as a nation need to prepare, I think there are some subtle differences here.
  Canada and the U.S. are allies (in theory)
  Canada is a part of NATO, which the U.S. is still a member of
  Canada is a part of the G7, which the U.S. is also a part of.
  Canada has never been a part of the U.S. and left.
  Ukraine was originally a part of the USSR which Putin is desperately trying to put back together.
  Russia wants control of Ukraine and for them to not be a part of the EU or NATO.
  2 different countries, but I still do agree with you that we as a country need to start using our low end booze, and even American bourbon to start preparing at home small batch artisanal Molotov cocktails.
  I don’t see the U.S. invading militarily. They’re already severing ties with the world and it hasn’t even been a month.
  This won’t end well for America. They’d take on so much debt to fight a war which not many people want.
  Could be wrong though, I’m certainly no expert in anything.
  
  The things to keep in mind are:
  NATO will not help us if the US tries to annex us. It will not act directly against the US
  The G7 won't do shit for us.
  These institutions are designed to support the US
  And this one cannot be overstated:
  Trump is a narcissist who was rejected by his country. He's not here to resume what he was doing before. Like a jilted narcissist ex who has come back into your life, he is here to hurt everyone who hurt him, and who didn't stand by him. Who didn't choose him. He's back to burn it all down and make the world suffer.
  
  Thanks. These are good points.
  
  I think you are overly optimistic in several points. Trump has already shown that the "ally" thing is meaningless.
  We had a free trade agreement (NAFTA) that he didn't like so he tore it up to negotiate the USMCA. Now he doesn't like that and is threatening tariffs. As many people are asking "what use is an ally if you can't trust them to keep their word?". If they negotiate agreements but refuse to hold up their end of the bargain, what value is the agreement?
  Trump has withdrawn from the Paris accord, is talking about withdrawing from NATO, and has threatened to withdraw from the G7 if we don't let Russia back in.
  We have mineral wealth which he is very interested in right now, and a claim to large sections of the North that are becoming valuable for shipping, and which we are not able to defend. So yeah, we are in a bit of trouble. Blithely ignoring the issues is not helpful at this time.
  
  Thanks as well. Also good points.
  
  Key point to remember: the us has not lead a successful invasion since normandie, and they are on a self destructive path. I would say its more likely they will lead an unsuccessful invasion on themselves autumn 2027
  
  Ukraine existed before the USSR and Tasrist Russia.
  It was an occupied territory.
  
  Well there you go. Learn something new everyday. Honestly I had no idea, so thanks a ton for that. I’ll have to read more into it.
  Very much appreciate you setting me straight.
  
  Fair points. But Invasion is the last resort. Ideally we have your government fold likely under pressure from domestic oligarchs. We have already seen these grifters come out.

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