6d ago

What keeps Americans from being mad about the state of their country?

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I'm not even American and I'm mad. Most of what I've heard from Americans is that they're mad.
- Same. I'm so mad and disappointed in America, but I can't let that override my compassion for its people. This whole thing is so frustrating to watch. Look at how the French do it, Americans! It's time to break some shit.
  
  You have compassion for us Americans, and that’s nice, but bear in mind we voted for this. As much as the people who voted for Trump may have done so out of desperation, we still made a catastrophically stupid decision. Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom. The problem lies in the American people. We have been squashed by both our government and our corporations. We need a wake-up call, and if that means we need to suffer from our own choices then so be it. Maybe we haven’t suffered enough yet. If we’re so dumb that we vote for a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump, maybe we need to be squashed a bit more. We have the power to take back our country, we just need the will to do it. Maybe that comes from more hardship and regret. Maybe that comes from more suffering.
  But maybe not. Maybe I’m wrong. I’m so disappointed with my own countrymen right now, maybe I’m not seeing things clearly. I don’t know. But I know we deserve what we voted for. The world doesn’t, and that’s a tragedy, but maybe America needs to take a hit and the world needs to rely less on us for both America and the world to be better. Again, I don’t know.
  
  we voted for this
  <Tinfoil hat>
  Did we? There are some suspicions of voter fraud in some swing states and it sure as hell isn't below musk to attempt something like that.
  Yet, I think that the past MAGA crazies screaming about "election fraud" and "stop the steal" has poisoned the well for legitimate future calls for investigating potential fraud in elections. On top of that it also makes people that question the results sound like the crazies of the past.
  It could explain why trump is allowing so much power to musk.
  </Tinfoil hat>
  Source: I have no source. It's all feels over reals and a partial lack of acceptance that so many American people are that dumb.
  
  We can't just claim that an undesirable outcome is the likely really of election fraud... I do wish the result was different but sewing a rumor that has no credible basis in reality serves minimal value.
  
  I completely agree that we can't blindly blame this on election fraud, that is a form of denial. Which I will admit is part of my Tinfoil hat rant above.
  But if there are credible sources that are stating they have doubts about the legitimacy of the results there should be an investigation. Note, this isn't really about this past election, I know of no evidence that shows fraud only slight rumblings from "unknown sources" which isn't legitimate to me.
  My concern is that the Stop the Steal movement, that was using weak or even made up evidence to support their cause has made future allegations less likely to be taken seriously.

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