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Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure ‘citizens will be on their best behavior’

www.businessinsider.com Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior'

Billionaire Oracle cofounder Larry Ellison said he expects AI surveillance systems to reach a point where all citizens are under constant watch.

Billionaire Larry Ellison says a vast AI-fueled surveillance system can ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior'

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People will post this on Reddit and unironically mention China
- At least in China the rules are accessible and determined by municipal governments.
- I bet if you asked this fucking guy he would say something along those lines
- Unironically this does describe China though.
  
  Huh? Credit score conspiracy theory in my Hexbear? Right in front of my salad?
  
  Credit scores aren't real actually but Chinese surveillance apparatus is massive and all-encompassing - I'm thinking specifically centralized CCTV and to a lesser extent government/police access to private social media. It does create a very safe and high-trust society because people know that wrongdoers are inevitably going to get caught.
  Wouldn't trust American billionaires to implement a similar system but China proves that the theory at least works.
  
  Exactly. The problem isn't one of theory, but of execution. This is the fundamental problem of books like 1984, with the creation the meme of "Freedom is Slavery", or people who misquote Benjamin Franklin.
  We in the U S. already give up essential freedoms as part of the state apparatus, if the state cannot provide us with reliable security in exchange for those freedoms, then we do not owe anything to that state. The saddest part is that, in the past, these were essentials of the most basic theories of liberal government. It is unsurprising though, given the conservative state liberalism has retreated to. Now, there is only one protected class whose freedom or security matters, and the rest of us can essentially go fuck ourselves, with neither freedom nor security. Basically feudalism without God.
  
  how so?
  
  Hope you don't mind me copy-pasting my other reply:
  Credit scores aren't real actually but Chinese surveillance apparatus is massive and all-encompassing - I'm thinking specifically centralized CCTV and to a lesser extent government/police access to private social media. It does create a very safe and high-trust society because people know that wrongdoers are inevitably going to get caught.
  Wouldn't trust American billionaires to implement a similar system but China proves that the theory at least works.
  
  hmm..i guess i'd have to take your word for it because i don't know how things operate in China, but i do agree that the system here will never be to the benefit of society as a whole

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