Yeah! Let’s double down on nepotism and not picking the best person for the job!
“I know he’s a famous, incredibly skilled, multiple Oscar winning auteur that produces nothing but box office hits, but does he HAVE A VAGINA?!?” /s
To go further, I find it suspicious that less than 50% of all directors aren’t transsexual.
Next year: “Even though only 2% of all filmmakers are transsexual, we really need to artificially inflate those numbers to 50%. The quality of their work be damned!”
Dunno about anyone else here but I’d rather just see good movies. I don’t give a flying fuck what the genitals or ethnicity of the people who make it are. I care about the QUALITY OF THE PROJECT. How many bad films and tv shows get made nowadays just because they decided to go with a female director despite lack of experience or passion for the project?
I hate that hiring choices aren’t being made considering skill. They are being made by skin color and gender.
I obviously want these minorities to have opportunities but I also don’t think it makes much sense in the art world where the product is a direct result of the talent of the director. By all means, artificially inflate the number of women that work in an office or some other white collar job but studios should stay the fuck away from this kind of thing when it comes to the film industry.
Edit: Here’s some more clarity about what I mean:
Minorities should obviously be considered with the same weight as white men but IMO that choice (especially at the top) should be made based on SKILL and qualifications. IMO, it’s fine to artificially inflate roles that aren’t the department head but department heads need to be decided on an OBJECTIVE BASIS.
the concepts of DEI or equity based hiring are entirely absent from the post you are flaming. it’s just reporting the numbers and proposes no solution—it barely even implies judgement on the numbers themselves.
you made up an entire narrative out of straw and are screaming and ranting that it was flammable. super embarrassing not gonna lie.
I’m just speaking my mind. The headline is clearly alluding to an inadequacy in the amount of women hired to direct major motion pictures and TV.
Otherwise, why would it even be mentioned?
Watching Wicked, I thought to myself “this looks like shit! Why is this the case?” Then, I looked up who shot it and looked at her other projects and saw that she was obviously chosen based on her gender. Nothing more. She was also inducted into the ASC after only 10 years of shooting low budget projects. Clearly, she isn’t being promoted based on her skill or experience level. It is ALL artificial. I’m tired of it. By all means, have Ellen Kuras shoot it or some other incredibly talented female DoP, but having Alice Brooks shoot it STINKS of gender nepotism.
Whether you want to shoot the messenger or not, I’m speaking my mind.
sounds like you just have a problem with Alice Brooks and that’s totally fine. i love Alice Brooks’ work and a lot of other people do too, so sorry but i am gonna cast judgement on you blaming “gender nepotism” instead of saying “eh i don’t prefer Alice Brooks” like a normal
person
By all means, artificially inflate the number of women that work in an office or some other white collar job but studios should stay the fuck away from this kind of thing when it comes to the film industry.
Why the film industry specifically? That doesn't strike me as particularly consistent.
My thought hadn’t fully materialized to make much sense.
Here’s another stab at it:
What I mean is, entry level jobs are fine. But in the world of engineering (for example), artificially making choices based on ethnicity or gender for the top tier job can have very real consequences. I’m all for giving minorities more opportunities but I think putting them in charge or in the main role solely because of their gender, sexuality, or ethnicity can be a recipe for disaster.
Minorities should obviously be considered with the same weight as white men but IMO that choice (especially at the top) should be made based on SKILL and qualifications. IMO, it’s fine to artificially inflate roles that aren’t the department head but department heads need to be decided on an OBJECTIVE BASIS.
Many white men are just nepo babies with privileged background though... i never hear people shilling your points discuss this little fact.
Entire argument is premised on the assumption that white man is naturally qualified and deserving of the role, while the undesirables are less qualified and only getting ahead due to their status.
Incompetent white men fail up all the time, I never hear people fielding the talking points you made here get their panties bunched over it.
And I am not even disagreeing with the core premises and I am not sure if you actually shilling in bad faith but these arguments are used in bad faith by some elements.
Another example is admissions into elite schools.... when black kid gets in, with lesser score these types are having meltdown over how "this n****r taking spots from deserving whites, rheee" but the same person never question legacy admissions.
My whole argument is based on the fact that for the entire life of the film industry, those that consistently put in the work and developed a style were eventually promoted to leadership roles.
I don’t disagree with the nepo babies part.
However, IMHO, we need to encourage schools and entry level positions to have fair admission practices.
The solution doesn’t come from artificially boosting women to the top. It comes from the bottom. If you want more women in the film industry, the solution isn’t to suddenly put all the women in leadership roles. If I may offer an analogy: You have to plant the seeds, not throw saplings in with mature trees and expect them to flourish.
The healthy solution (that wouldn’t sacrifice the quality of the material) is to get more women into film at the entry level areas. That way, they can naturally beat their male counterparts objectively rather than being forcefed. That is unless you want to see objectively worse movies as long as they are helmed by women. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want, though.
You can’t encourage the film industry to force people that weren’t skilled enough for the biggest jobs to put those people in those jobs just because of their sex. That directly punishes the audience for wanting quality solely for the sake of PR.
That is unless you want to see objectively worse movies as long as they are helmed by women. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want, though.
I don't give a fuck what pedos are in hollywood are producing my man.... i don't respect these regime whores.
You can’t encourage the film industry to force people that weren’t skilled enough for the biggest jobs to put those people in those jobs just because of their sex. That directly punishes the audience for wanting quality solely for the sake of PR.
Capital owners decide who makes movies and they control what is put into these movies with a few exceptions. It is likely the most nepo baby industry in existence. So you have naive understanding how the industry works if you are larping "talent and skill" bullshit.
You are essentially stating that because a bunch white dudes with connection get these jobs, it makes them the best. It is a circular argument. So you confirming to me that you are in fact shilling these tropes to support the regime narratives. Bad faith arguments with veneer of "meritocracy" to justify status quo.
The healthy solution (that wouldn’t sacrifice the quality of the material) is to get more women into film at the entry level areas.
Sounds like woke DEI to me /s
But genuinely, I agree with this point, and you really should just open with it next time. Literally no one disagrees with you on this. Instead, though, you take us through this cleverly nauseating progression:
The Numbers: You started by reacting to a basic observation about gender disparity with hostility toward DEI and “gender nepotism,” which comes off as less constructive criticism and more knee-jerk dismissal.
The Denigration: You used these buzzwords to undermine the achievements of a lauded woman DoP, despite offering no evidence that her gender was the determining factor in her success (and, frankly, it looks like you have a personal grudge against her based on your profile).
The Pivot: When challenged, you reframed the debate entirely, presenting yourself as a reasonable advocate for fair entry-level practices—something no one here was arguing against.
If your actual concern is quality and fairness, why not just focus on dismantling systemic barriers and advocating for more equitable entry-level opportunities? Lead with solutions instead of buzzwords and thinly veiled hostility. That way, you might actually foster a productive conversation instead of alienating people who might otherwise agree with you.
Thanks for the essay. I appreciate your point. It was well written but snarky. Maybe subtract the snark to actually have an adult discussion sometime.
Ps. I disagree entirely on Alice Brooks being “lauded”. As a person that works in the film industry, Wicked is one of the worst looking $150 million films I have ever seen. Let’s agree to disagree.
Take them where you can get them. You obviously needed a “W” more than I. I was just expressing my opinion and you came in and wrote essays that agree with me then pretended you “won” like a sad, lonely, insecure person.