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Starlink to roll out direct-to-cell services in Ukraine - CNA

www.channelnewsasia.com Starlink to roll out direct-to-cell services in Ukraine

Ukraine's leading mobile operator Kyivstar has signed an agreement with Starlink to introduce direct-to-cell satellite connectivity in the country, Kyivstar's parent company VEON said on Monday (Dec 30). Direct-to-cell services are connected to satellites that can beam phone signals from space direc...

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Starlink to roll out direct-to-cell services in Ukraine - CNA

www.channelnewsasia.com /business/starlink-roll-out-direct-cell-services-ukraine-4831346

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That sure was their rationale after the fact, wasn't it?
- However, as Musk objected immediately and Isaacson would clarify soon after, the claim that Musk had ordered Starlink coverage in Crimea "turned off" wasn't entirely accurate. (Both CNN and The Washington Post subsequently corrected their reports.)
  From the article you linked.
  CNN and TWP both corrected what they wrote, but you know better?
- Just read the article.
  Your claim is that they disabled it. They didn't. It was never enabled in the first place.
  
  I shared it. Of course I read it. It's also the statement from their public relations department after the fact to try and quell the public backlash.
  
  After the fact? After what? After the thing you’re claiming didn’t happen?
  Do you see what you’re doing here? You’re using an article whose sole purpose is to debunk the claim you’re trying to make. You’re emotionally invested in this - you don’t like Elon, so you want this to be true. When someone points out that it’s not true, with evidence, you start making things up to avoid acknowledging you were wrong. This is cognitive dissonance. The reason you have this false belief to begin with is because Walter Isaacson wrote about it in his book. Now the exact same person has admitted that this didn't happen yet you still keep harping on about it. You're literally spreading misonformation.
  
  The article doesn't debunk anything. All it really says is it can't definitively say either way. You just choose to focus on the PR response because it supports what you want.
  
  All it really says is it can’t definitively say either way.
  No it doesn't. It clearly says there that the original claim made in the book, which is the same claim you're making here, is false yet you keep spreading it.
  Your claim: he shut down Starlink to stop a Ukrainian assault
  Truth: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not
  Elon didn't disable anything. It was never enabled in the first place. Your claim is simply just false.
  
  I understand that people don't like Musk, I can't stand him myself, but there are enough bad things that he really did, to not have to stick to false narratives.
  The downvoting of the objectively proven truth here is like reading something on Twitter, but in the opposite direction. It's incredible to me that someone invoked Snopes and spouted the opposite of the findings of that Snopes article, and is being upvoted for it.

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