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Kidplayer_666 @lemm.ee

1y ago

Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

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250k is a lot of money. It was more even more money in the 90s. Its an exceptionally large amount of money to recieve for free straight from your parents.
People don't become billionaires from working. They become billionaires by taking profit from the surplus value of other peoples work.
But you believe in a propagandized version of capitaliam where everyone could equally become a billionaire, its a meritocracy, you're all jealous and lazy of our deserving overlords
- 250K isn't that much money. Maybe to you but to the average person it isn't.
  Completely out-of-touch.
  
  $250,000 isn't a lot of money to the average person
  Thats literally 5-6x the median annual income what the hell are you smoking. That is a life changing amount of money to most of the country.
  they didn't take the profit from anyone
  They took that profit from the people working there. Profit is the difference between expenses and income. In order to turn a profit companies cannot pay workers what their work earns the company, there has to be a difference. In economic parlance this difference is referred to as surplus value being generated by the workers for the company. If workers were paid what they were worth then the profit margin of that company would be 0% but those people would all be paid more than they are now. Whether you think the workers are entitled to the full value of what they create is an ideological determination that I will judge you for.
  
  1: didn't touch that for some reason
  2: I am aware they ran on venture capital. You didn't address where they take their profit from now that they've achieved their dream near-monopoly status. That status that would have been impossible without their thousands of employees to begin with.
  
  s coffee. It just needs to be coffee
  No. This is absolutely wrong. There's an entire grading system involved.
  
  Lol eat shit, lib
  
  The average US worker has a salary of $46,800 (in 2018) before taxes. Assuming they saved everything and spent nothing, it would take over 5 years for them to make 250k. Again, this is before taxes, and without spending anything. For the vast majority of people, 250k is a lot of money.
  Assuming they saved everything and spent nothing, the average worker would have to work the entire length of all human history in order to earn a billion dollars. If they were to make as much money as Jeff Bezos, they would have to work for 2.8 million years.
  Assuming you earned a million dollars every year, it would take 1000 years to earn your first billion dollars.
  It's not possible to become a billionaire simply through working, as humans do not live that long.
  
  Exactly. So you agree that it's impossible to earn and save a billion dollars just by working hard. It requires either exploiting your workers by stealing their surplus value, or by using the market by short-selling, using hedge funds, trading through illegal offshore numbered accounts, derivatives, etc.
  
  or by using the market by short-selling, using hedge funds, trading through illegal offshore numbered accounts, derivatives, etc.
  Which is also just stealing surplus value by proxy, since return on investment is simply a share of the company's profits, which is itself just surplus value, or unpaid labor.
  
  If I don't take what my boss offers I will starve to death and die. That is not what I would consider a strong bargaining position. I can go to the other company that I could work at but they both work together to keep wages low. I have no power to improve my status because the system is rigged against me and every worker like me
  
  So you are saying that as black people on average don't earn as much as white people they just aren't as good as them? It is their fault for the way the system treats them? I would hope that is obvious ridiculous to you. However the average person has just as much control over the capitalist system as black people have over the police state.
  
  When you're old enough to work you'll sell it to whoever you can at whatever price they offer and you'll be lucky to get annual raises that match inflation.
  
  what do you do for a living?
  
  i wonder if the nature and specialization of your professional work is what allows you to be like that with employers, i imagine the local cashier at mcdonalds doesn't have that kind of bargaining power
  
  Yeaaaa delete that shit, coward
  
  If wealth were actually distributed in the US equally that might be true, but as it is it's more than double what most Americans have, even ignoring inflation.
  The average net worth of all American families was $746,820, according to the Federal Reserve’s 2019 Survey of Consumer Finances, while the median figure was $121,760.
  — The Average Net Worth Of Americans—By Age, Education And Ethnicity
  
  Ok then go ahead and lend me $250k right now. I promise I'll pay it back.
  
  I'm not telling you my business plan before I receive the money
  
  since he deleted it, here's what this loser wrote:
  250k isn't that much money. Maybe to you but to the average person it isn't.
  You don't even get how billionaires are made. LOL. They didn't take the profit from anyone. Amazon doesn't give a dividend.
  Their wealth is based on the value of the company which is truly arbitrary. Since people are not expecting to make money from a dividend, it's all made up.
  It is why Amazon could drop in value tomorrow if people felt it wasn't going to continue to climb in value. The only way to make money is still sell the shares.
  
  Their wealth is based on the value of the company which is truly arbitrary
  And this was supposed to be an argument for billionaires deserving their wealth?

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