2mo ago

The assassination of United Healthcare's CEO is a real life trolley problem, and a select few are trying to argue to save all lives while the train is going to kill the masses.

It appears that in every thread about this event there is someone calling everyone else in the thread sick and twisted for not proclaiming that all lives are sacred and being for the death of one individual.

It really is a real life trolley problem because those individuals are not seeing the deaths caused by the insurance industry and not realizing that sitting back and doing nothing (i.e. not pulling the lever on the train track switch) doesn't save lives...people are going to continue to die if nothing is done.

Taking a moral high ground and stating that all lives matter is still going to costs lives and instead of it being a few CEOs it will be thousands.

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Killing the evil fuck doesn't save any lives. The board (?) still had the meeting he was on his way to and they are still going to continue to deny basic human rights to the people who pay them for it.
The reality is that this is just yet another sign of immaturity and arrested development. I forget where I first heard it but... folk been watching WAY too much Steven Universe and similar warm and cozy shit. They think that by always taking the high road they are better people and the world will be a better place because if you do the right thing everyone else will.
When the reality is that people like the dead fuck prey on naivety like that.
If we ever find out who did it we are sure to find out they are also a pretty monstrous person. But, as satisfying as this has been, it changes nothing.
- The reality is that this is just yet another sign of immaturity and arrested development. I forget where I first heard it but… folk been watching WAY too much Steven Universe and similar warm and cozy shit. They think that by always taking the high road they are better people and the world will be a better place because if you do the right thing everyone else will.
  I'm confused, didn't you just agree that killing him has no effect? If so, why are you seemingly condemning the people who are condemning the people who are celebrating the killing?
  I can assure you that I have no illusions about the brutality of human existence, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't oppose senseless violence when I see it.
  
  Its the idea that "Oh, they are a human being with loved ones just like you". When the reality is that he was a leech upon humanity who caused internally measured suffering and death. And his family benefited from that.
  But, because the power of friendship and candy cane sandwiches, he is still a human being and we need to feel bad. It doesn't matter how many people they murder for a buck, they are still a person and you are the bad person for not feeling bad for their death.
  
  Its the idea that “Oh, they are a human being with loved ones just like you”. When the reality is that he was a leech upon humanity who caused internally measured suffering and death. And his family benefited from that.
  He literally was a human being with loved ones just like you and me. The fact that the vast majority of people seem incapable of perceiving that reality is absolutely horrifying.
  A leech is a leech. A human being is a human being. If you refuse to recognize the difference, you're just as evil as anyone else. You don't know anything about him or his life, which is why it's so easy for you to dehumanize him. I wonder if you would feel the same if you had been there on the sidewalk and watched him gasping for air as he bled out. I wonder if you would feel the same if you had attended his funeral. I would hope not, but I'm honestly not sure anymore, my faith in basic human empathy and decency is somewhat shaken of late.
  I'm not even saying that you need to feel bad. I'm just saying that people shouldn't be supporting senseless gun violence and extrajudicial murder, no matter who the victim is. It's like supporting genocide, or chemical weapons. This kind of shit isn't good for anyone, and if you don't understand that you're a fucking idiot.
  
  Got it. Being amused at the death of someone who has immensely profited off the death and suffering of others is genocide.
  Thanks for the demonstration of what I was talking about, I guess?
  
  You've immensely profited off the death and suffering of others. Every single amenity of modern life that you possess came at a cost. Whatever nation-state you reside in waged countless wars to secure the resources you now enjoy. Everything that you eat and drink is provided to you courtesy of a chain of exploitative corporations that are doing catastrophic damage to the planet and human lives. Everything that you have ever done, including breathing, has exacerbated climate change. Every time you have paid your bills and taxes, you have continued to support this exploitative system. You are actively ruining this planet for untold future generations simply by continuing to selfishly remain alive and being too cowardly to rebel in any meaningful fashion against a system which you clearly understand to be violent and destructive. Shame on you.
  Luckily, I don't advocate for murder under any circumstances, because I am not a monster.
  
  He literally was a human being with loved ones just like you and me.
  I don't make millions off of denying life saving healthcare to millions of people, which I think is more important than having loved ones. The worst atrocities are committed by people with loved ones.
  They are still horrible people and the world is better off when they die.
  
  Actually its closer to capital punishment. of course it isn't good for anyone. but you know what else is even worse for everyone? the policies this man personally implemented unnecessarily causing death, pain, and hardship to millions. which hilariously is more similar to your examples of genocide/chemical weapons.
  he is the type of person you remove (with prejudice) from your environment asap.

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