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What's so bad about win 11 as an OS? For me it's the most stable windows. Of course the MS crap they want you to include is bs, but that's not really the OS
It's part of the OS? All of the telemetry, ads, and strange news thingy is a standard part of the OS - if you try to remove it, it'll just get back with any updates.
So it is really the OS
it's the same way ubuntu bad now, forcing snaps
Ok fair. I think win 11 is pretty solid in terms of performance, stability and ui (as long as you have the win11 ui and not 10/7/xp legacy things). But other parts of the OS still make it shit.
Rule of thumb: If it's included with an install where you're clicking through the defaults, to the average user the distinction doesn't matter, it's part of the OS
Also the problem with not being able to deactivate the things properly. See my other comment, I changed my mind, win 11 is shit. But I don't think it's much worse than 10.