How likely is it that the Trump administration will attempt to deanonymize online antifascists and leftists and imprison them?
How likely is it that the Trump administration will attempt to deanonymize online antifascists and leftists and imprison them?
Pretty much the title. I certainly believe Trump, Maga, the Military, and the Police will, sooner or later, probably sooner, get around to at least attempting to deanonymize and round up online antifascists and leftists and imprison them. How organized and effective that attempt is I am less sure of.
To be very transparent, this is something I'm pretty sure I'd be on the hook for. I have a long log of anti trump, antifascist, left sentiments, and am 75% sure I'll be disappeared at some point in the next 4 years as I have no plans of shutting up. The only reason I'm not 100% sure is because of how expensive it would be. But hey, maybe it's less expensive than potentially losing power? So I don't know.
Never? Not likely? Maybe? Very? Extremely? Definitely?
Thoughts?
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It isn't November 2016 anymore. Trump has been president before and whatever you think of his first term, you already know (roughly) what tends to happen when he is president (if you are too young, there is a near-infinite amount of news articles, social media discussions, wiki articles where you can look it up). I somewhat understood fears like this in late 2016 when a Trump administration was an unprecedented phenomenon, but now?
But in 2016, he didn't know what he was doing. He didn't expect to win. It's very different this time around.
And when do you think he started to know what he was doing? 2017, 2018, 2019, never? If not in any of these years, then why would he know it in 2025?
the heritage foundation is surrounding trump with money and advisors so that they can finish the work that they started in this country in 1980. (they're the people who created project 2025)
they've been successful with other countries and that's taught them how to get things done within the frameworks of other governments and they've also been successful in this country with sympathetic administrations; so they have plenty of experience in making things happen.
Project 2025 is scary, but it's also stuff Republicans have been trying to do since the 80s (as you point out). If Bush and Cheney couldnt do [insert horrible policy here] when they had power, if Trump couldn't do it the first time around, how are they going to do it now?
This shit isn't actually popular, a bunch of the money behind the GOP either doesn't want it or doesn't care (see the effect mass deportations would have on major companies' workforces), and we have even less competent people in the federal government than in the first Trump admin, which itself had even less competent people than Bush.
The Democratic Party doesn't believe this stuff, either (or they just don't care) -- otherwise they'd be bending over backwards between now and January to try and sabotage it. If they cared about mass deportations, Biden could issue pardons for immigration-related offenses. Congress could grant citizenship to large swaths of the immigrants population. But they're instead busy ensuring the smooth transition of power to people they spent the last decade calling fascists.
the heritage foundation has been learning how to do it in this country through trial and error like they've done it in all of the other countries; they've perfected the recipe as evidenced by the successful kill-the-gays laws in africa.
the administrations that were sympathetic to the heritage foundation's cause were restrained by their desire to appeal to moderates and trump, like reagan, has little-to-no such limitations.
and the democrats are MUCH worse than that since they attempted to use project 2025 as a distraction from their complicity in the gazan genocide and won't bother enacting the equal rights amendment that would help protect us from project 2025; even though it's already passed all the legal hurdles 4 years ago and there's still time for the biden administration to enact it.
This time is quite different, actually. First, he learned his lesson about hiring institutionalists as his secretaries and advisors since they would push back against more questionable ideas, now he's surrounding himself with yes-men like RFK jr, Kristi Noem and the likes. There have also been precedents set like the infamous "official act immunity", and just many more lessons learned from 2016 in general.
There's also just much more co-ordination now in general with the whole Project 2025.
Trump has plenty of establishment picks lined up as well.
We had the same fearmongering in 2016. Trump will do some dumb stuff Reagan style but he will not end the world.
The Supreme Court gave the office of the president full immunity for discharging duties of the office.