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4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

privacy.thenexus.today 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!)

Draft! Work in progress! Feedback welcome!

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/15011909

Feedback welcome! Here's the TL;DR list

Listen more to more Black people
Post less – and think before you post
Call in, call out, and/or report anti-Blackness when you see it
Support Black people and Black-led instances and projects

Other suggestions?

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I don't really understand why this is getting so massively downvoted.
Seems perfectly reasonable to me as a white person. Yes, point two could be more nuanced, but otherwise aren't all these downvotes kind of illustrating the point the OP is making here?
- Point 2 is exactly why it is being down-voted. A post about how the Fediverse is toxic to one race/skin colour shouldn't be telling people of a different race/skin colour to "post less".
  Discrimination based on race isn't welcome, no matter who it's against.
  
  Point 2 is better explained in the article. I don't take this as discrimination, more that while I will always aim to empathise and understand as much as I can about the black experience and be an ally, it's something I will never have direct experience of, so maybe there are some conversations that I don't need to muscle in on.
- Probably the appeal to white guilt and call to action to specifically white people when the vast majority of people on the fediverse are not racist or “anti-black”
  
  Maybe not the majority, but clearly it's common enough to warrant mentioning for the people affected by it.
  
  I think examples might serve people better in this regard. It can be hard to accept things as real that you've never experienced, and don't fit with your lifetime of experiences, purely on faith alone.
  Edit: I realize this is the exact opposite of "just accept other people have different experiences", but it's hard to deny that this is something a lot of people have trouble with in a lot of aspects of life. Expecting people to just override the natural state of viewing the world through their own personal lens is always going to be a hard ask.
  People asking for examples are not always trying to find ways to tear other experiences apart. Sometimes they might need examples to help them understand better.
- Indeed. Funny how that works! Glad you thought it was reasonable, and agreed that point 2 needs work.
  
  Yeah haha, I think point 2 is well explained in the article, maybe it's too generalised here.
  Still good general advice for posting in my opinion, better to think in general.
  
  I actually thought point two was the best point. Listening to the concerns is probably the best thing you could do, if you don’t think they apply to you, moving on about your day is the next best thing. Asking for proof of “anti blackness” is problem the worst thing to do.
  
  Thanks! It's an important point but I'm not surprised it's meeting with such pushback here. And, to be fair, as somebody pointed out in another thread, the current title of the section doesn't match the current text, which focuses more narrowly on posting less specifically about anti-Blackness ... so there's room for improvement. But, my guess is that's not why most people are downvoting it 🤣

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